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  1. Republican Healthcare

    Can they? Yes, but should they be making these decisions? No.

  2. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Now I just have to attack my constructed strawman, right? I didn't and wasn't planning on attacking this position. It isn't a straw man. It is an assessment of your dishonest argumentation. Which you are free to correct.

  3. Republican Healthcare

    I don't know. Huge increases of the federal budget is the other problem. Centralized government is going to eventually need to make care decisions for people. Why do you want this?

  4. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    That isn't how strawmen work.

  5. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Ironically. I was stating my opinion so, ok.

  6. Republican Healthcare

    The pricing constraints I'm talking about are market based, not government. But we're not going to get the government 100% out of health care, we do need some regulations. I agree with your first point, that 6% isn't going to be eaten by the hospitals, prices will go up elsewhere. Its simply...

  7. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    That is not a lie.

  8. Republican Healthcare

    Do you know anybody on public assistance? I do. They have to report income changes whenever they occur. Maybe you wouldn't need to do that for just deductibles now that I think about it more.

  9. Republican Healthcare

    Like I've said multiple times unpaid hospital bills are a tiny part of the whole pie, like 6% of hospital budgets small. That isn't going to significantly raise prices. Geekbabe was telling me that her treatment was negotiated down from 30k to 10k by her insurance company. If the hospital can...

  10. Republican Healthcare

    Totally against it. That would mean you have to means test everybody in the country.

  11. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    If you disagree with the government taking over the healthcare system then you want kids to die of cancer. That is the bottom line with these guys. They act as if they are speaking with Hitler.

  12. How to control the people : Keep them stupid and uninformed

    If I am being dishonest then I am doing so unwillingly, I literally think that the examples given could never be reasonably extrapolated out to create the things mutation and selection is supposed to have created. I don't think any reasonable person should.

  13. Republican Healthcare

    You can't subsidize bad decisions. If you tell healthy people that you can buy insurance when you get sick at no significant penalty, that is exactly what they are going to do. As for who is going to pay for the emergency room care, we're only talking 40 billion a year in unpaid hospital...

  14. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Who me? I'm simply against the government taking over the healthcare system.

  15. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Just as long as you realize that the soonest this will happen is 2020.

  16. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    So you agree with Hodgkinson?

  17. Republican Healthcare

    Almost there.

  18. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    You have no idea to which you speak. And you don't believe in hell.

  19. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Chocolate chip cookies are good. Let's see what you hacks can do with that statement.

  20. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    You're a child.

  21. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    I think you're overcompensating for something.

  22. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Why can't you just cut the gotcha crap for once? If I liked a post it has none of the nonsense I was talking about here.

  23. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Poor Duke. I don't condone his behavior in this thread and I'm glad he's gone.

  24. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Inevitable

  25. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    That wasn't for you. Good luck to you.

  26. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Quit wasting my time.

  27. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Your opinion doesn't matter.

  28. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Screw you. Yes I do.

  29. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    The analogy was about the system, not people. Nobody is comparing throwing cars away and throwing people away except you.

  30. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Of course I care. I'm saying it isn't the federal government's job to provide healthcare to you, not that you shouldn't get care.

  31. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    I do drive my loved ones around in my cars so there is a relationship. Just saying that if something can be fixed it should be fixed is not a good argument.

  32. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    I'm glad you are getting this treatment. Do you think you would be getting this treatment right now if the federal government was in complete control of the system? Or would they wait until those costs come down before expanding to the general public?

  33. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    I don't think The Duke is much longer for this world.

  34. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    To that I agree, Pilgrim.

  35. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    It isn't the government's role to do anything with you. The government is going to be making those decisions if it controls the whole thing anyway.

  36. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    The Duke came in firing.

  37. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Ok, look, I don't want anybody to suffer, I just don't think it is the federal government's job to do these things.

  38. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Because your care is too expensive. Care providers have very little incentive to reduce price.

  39. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Fine. We as people should help those who need it, we don't need the federal government to do it. I don't have most of the cars I've ever owned because it became smarter and more economical to get rid of them rather than fix them.

  40. Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

    Unpaid hospital bills are tiny compared to what is spent yearly on healthcare in this country. Not a major driver of increased prices.
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