Yup, turns out sometimes waiting for the actual news is a good idea.
Fair point on garnering publicity. It does seem like Vega 20 good die count is on the low end - no wonder Nvidia is holding off. That situation will likely improve significantly over the next six months, unless TSMC is really tight on capacity. I would prefer to see some more solid evidence on Navi's release date - Lisa Su said nothing about timetables at her CES presentation.They needed a 7nm GPU for CES. The most recent rumors are suggesting that Navi won't launch until October/November instead of June/July, so it may have more issues than initially thought. Some rumors suggested that they were only going to ship 20k Radeon VII GPUs at most, so it's just a matter of how much they value any publicity they get from releasing it as opposed to the value they could have from selling the cards as MI50 products.
Fair point on garnering publicity. It does seem like Vega 20 good die count is on the low end - no wonder Nvidia is holding off. That situation will likely improve significantly over the next six months, unless TSMC is really tight on capacity. I would prefer to see some more solid evidence on Navi's release date - Lisa Su said nothing about timetables at her CES presentation.
Fair point on garnering publicity. It does seem like Vega 20 good die count is on the low end - no wonder Nvidia is holding off. That situation will likely improve significantly over the next six months, unless TSMC is really tight on capacity. I would prefer to see some more solid evidence on Navi's release date - Lisa Su said nothing about timetables at her CES presentation.
That's the headline that the article ran with. I don't think this has much of anything to do with ray tracing. It is free media coverage though.
Availability, since if you can't buy a Radeon VII if they're all sold out and AMD doesn't make any more of them.
They needed a 7nm GPU for CES. The most recent rumors are suggesting that Navi won't launch until October/November instead of June/July, so it may have more issues than initially thought. Some rumors suggested that they were only going to ship 20k Radeon VII GPUs at most, so it's just a matter of how much they value any publicity they get from releasing it as opposed to the value they could have from selling the cards as MI50 products.
TSMC is about to start HVM of EUV 7nm (a.k.a. 2nd gen 7nm a.k.a. 7FF+), so I have some doubts about yelds being so tragic on the current edge node.
is Vega 20 the first 7nm chip from AMD and TSMC? Seems like this was a limited run (if not just a selection of chips for MI60 or whatever) just to work out kinks with their new 7nm partner before dedicating capacity to Zen 2 and Pro Vega 20 needs. Is it possible to learn anything about the process and translate that from GPU wafers to what you would expect with CPUs?
IIRC, the EUV part is not true. Digitimes was wrong/got confused.
We'll they've been saying they plan to start risk production for 5nm this year for ages now, and I don't think they would start that without having 7FF+ in HVM.
Actually I think 7FF+ already went "HVM" some time back, but nobody is using it just yet because they are still working out EUV. It's confusing yes.
<nervously looks into his case> I wish my desk was real wood so I could knock on it. :/
Managed to snag a XFX-branded Radeon VII at Newegg today.
I bought it mainly for the FP64 compute (3.46 TFLOPs i.e. 1/2 of MI50) but I suppose I can do some other testing (especially undervolting).
And there goes the ghost. Welps, let's see if I can RMA this thing (first time I'll have to warranty something I removed the stock cooler on :/ ) or if I learned a valuable lesson.
And there goes the ghost. Welps, let's see if I can RMA this thing (first time I'll have to warranty something I removed the stock cooler on :/ ) or if I learned a valuable lesson.
He's talking about his 2080Ti.You are having to RMA a Radeon VII already? What failed?
So got my new Radeon VII last night and put it on my test bench.
clean install of windows 10 starts up fine but upon installing 19.2.1 or 19.2.2 windows flashes a message the the display driver could not start and reverts to microsoft basic display adapter. Rebooting and checking device manager shows the card but with a yellow exclamation point and says windows stopped this device due to errors code 43.
650W evga psu
2 separate 8 pin power cables to the card
Tried reseating the card, reseating the pcie power cables.
Thoughts? dud card?
I'd try putting it in a different system and see if it's the same. If so, dud card.full driver from AMD. 2 clean installs
Sounds like a driver problem....full driver from AMD. 2 clean installs
And there goes the ghost. Welps, let's see if I can RMA this thing (first time I'll have to warranty something I removed the stock cooler on :/ ) or if I learned a valuable lesson.
full driver from AMD. 2 clean installs
Sounds like a driver problem....
Did you try the default Windows driver ?