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    Surge Protectors?

    Not according to the IEEE and NIST surge guides. Both say plug-in protectors are effective. But westom just ignores anything that doesn't fit his real simple beliefs about surge protection. Propaganda from a company that does not use MOVs in its protectors. How old are the protectors with...
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    Surge Protectors?

    Westom forgets to mention that Martzloff said in the same document: "Mitigation of the threat can take many forms. One solution. illustrated in this paper, is the insertion of a properly designed [multiport plug-in surge protector]." Multiport protectors allow you to wire phone and cable wires...
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    Surge Protectors?

    Excellent information on surges and surge protection is at: http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lhm/IEEE_Guide.pdf - "How to protect your house and its contents from lightning: IEEE guide for surge protection of equipment connected to AC power and communication circuits" published by the IEEE...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Thermal disconnects were required starting 1998. The most recent version of UL1449 is 3rd edition, which was effective in 2009. (I did not search much for specs for the protector in a recent post from Scipio, but one source said it was listed under UL1449 2nd edition.) UL1449 was created for...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    It has connections for hot-hot-neutral-ground. Virtually every service in the US has the neutral bonded to the ground at the service panel (and not downstream). You would then only need hot-hot-neutral/ground. This one will work fine, but has an extra lead that isn't used. It can be used on a...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    The lie repeated for the 4th time. Poor westom can't understand the simple explanation in the IEEE (not NIST) surge guide. Without the protector at TV1 the voltage at TV2 is 10kV. With the protector at TV1 the voltage at TV1 is 8kV. The protector at TV1 causes no damage to TV2. The point of...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Westom just repeats the same nonsense - already debunked. The NIST surge guide suggests most damage is from high voltage between power and cable/phone/... wires. Repeating from the NIST surge guide: "Q - Will a surge protector installed at the service entrance be sufficient for the whole...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    I agree that westom is hopeless. It is like talking to a Scientologist. But other people read westom's technobabble and believe it. Who would guess anyone would compulsively post blatantly false information all over the internet. Scipio called him "a surge legend!", although initially Scipio...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    It is humor from westom. Google for [westom surge scam]. The lie repeated, at least the third time. Westom forgets to mention that Martzloff said in the same document: "Mitigation of the threat can take many forms. One solution. illustrated in this paper, is the insertion of a properly...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    As Scipio posted, and the IEEE surge guide confirms, the maximum surge current that has any reasonable probability of occurring is 10,000A per service wire. That is based on a 100,000A lightning strike to a utility pole adjacent to a house in typical urban overhead distribution. Only 5% of...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    As I have posted more than once, an investigation by the surge expert at the NIST found the energy that can get to a plug-in protector is surprisingly small, even with the worst surge with any reasonable probability of occurring. UL listed plug-in protectors have ratings well above that. To pass...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Fortunately children are smarter than westom. The IEEE Emerald Book explicitly recognizes plug-in protectors as effective. And the IEEE surge guide says plug-in protectors are effective. The 99+% figures are for lighting rods. They have nothing to do with surge protectors. Every relevant...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Repeating: The author of the NIST surge guide investigated how much energy might be absorbed in a MOV in a plug-in protector. The surge on incoming power wires was up to 10,000A (the largest surge with any reasonable probability of occurring, as above). The maximum energy at the MOV was a...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Repeating: When using a plug-in protector all interconnected equipment needs to be connected to the same protector. External connections, like coax, also must go through the protector. And: The voltage between wires to the protected equipment is safe for the protected equipment. That is what...
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    Are surge surpressors still necessary today?

    Excellent information on surges and surge protection is at: http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lhm/IEEE_Guide.pdf - "How to protect your house and its contents from lightning: IEEE guide for surge protection of equipment connected to AC power and communication circuits" published by the IEEE...
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