Yeah, I think the capture card I have is x1. The network card is x8, but I'm going to want the option to go to qsfp28 in the next couple of years. I've only looked at a smattering of AM5 motherboards, but what I've seen are either 2 slots, or 3 with the extra pair at pcie3. Limited, but...
Capture card, and a faster networking card are pretty obvious adds (I'm using sfp28, but I'd like to move to qsfp28 at some point).
You can do most capture via USB, but if I wanted to cobble together a frankenstein's monster of individual boxes, I'd probably use one of these modern mesh cases...
I would have thought it was too early for price drops considering that B motherboards are still in the wings, motherboard prices in general should drop once they're not air-shipped, and the competition is still in line. There are simply too many reasons to wait right now.
That said, the move at...
I'm hearing that Zen4 is being bundled with RAM, so, something is happening with desktop sales. I like that AMD kept Zen4 prices mostly reasonable, but maybe even that wasn't enough? I guess people are looking for a deal. This shouldn't be a surprise with Intel coming out a mere month later...
Encoders included, though we don't know which ones (covered in the PC World video above). Hopefully AMF with B-frame support. It's at least /close/ to QuickSync. What's really going to make or break it is whether anyone is going to support it.
If there's one area that Intel might win, it's QuickSync.
The announced pricing is quite reasonable, seems to me. Yes, low end is a little high, but if you're sensitive to pricing, you won't be doing an AM5/DDR5 build quite yet. The 7950X is reasonable, count me surprised.
What you could get would be to get a low-sku sale and platform buy-in, which would keep gamers on the hook for the CPU upgrade (vcache) and again for the Zen5 chip, allowing schedules to slip without concerns of sales loss to Intel. You put the vcache far enough in the future to convince people...
Without knowing how borked the CPU<-->memory connection was in the Zen4 pre-final silicon test, it's impossible to draw accurate conclusions about a vcache part. I would treat these numbers as "under no circumstances higher than" and assume that MLiD is being used as FUD on the Raptor launch --...
Yeah.
...and you're right.
So, what was working for AMD that wasn't working for Intel? And to keep it even more relative to the topic, how does Zen4 need to be positioned to continue to win a market that Intel has spent so much effort losing?
How do you feel about $900? j/k, I suspect I know :>
There will be first day buyers. The number of them is limited, that's a function of the reality of current market demand.
I don't expect Hans' scenario to play out -- I expect high prices until $100+/core server sales collapse. That said...
I think we should remind ourselves that the issue for zen3 TR is availability. A quick scan at Zen2 TR pricing doesn't seem to indicate a problem with demand either. At EOL, you're seeing 45% premiums to MSRP. That's not a demand problem.
That said, there are likely cost constraints in...
Hanlon's Razer.
What I heard AMD say is that they talked to all of their Threadripper Pro customers and determined that what the market wants is Threadripper Pro. I'm not willing to ascribe greed or even just a profit motive to what could be plain ignorance. I can only speak for myself, a...
I'm not paying $100/core for their workstation part -- no margin loss here.
I'd buy a 24/32 core 7950ZX. Particularly if there's a motherboard out there that splits some of those pcie5 lanes into a crapton of more useful pcie4 lanes.... I'd pay decent money for more lanes and memory as well --...
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