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Actually would like to see Z spec results. IBM did shout about single-thread performance leadership few years ago but not anymore -...
Jun 25, 2024
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It could be clustered design. Like Alpha 21264. Both clusters could execute same thread but cluster-to-cluster register moves were...
Jun 25, 2024
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Those Marvell cpu's did so well - specially on 1T. Yeah SMT has it's strong points but those aren't found in todays desktop or mobile cpus.
Jun 25, 2024
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You are missing a point. Intel P-cores aim to be 1T performance king. Competition is though nowadays - 1T performance crown won't come...
Jun 25, 2024
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Actually Intel put on their slides those exact points I have made in this forum years. I actually thought that those Intel points would...
Jun 25, 2024
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That's how cpu's are designed - in simulations. That's Intel demonstration of different design approaches and it's effect on cpu...
Jun 25, 2024
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And I have to wonder why there's so much love towards SMT in this forum. Most desktop users won't benefit at all from SMT but would from...
Jun 25, 2024
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Just like Intel demonstrated, they have 115% single-thread performance at same power with their single-thread optimzed core as SMT-core...
Jun 25, 2024
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Their SMT-less core has 115 performance at 100% power. Their possible HT version would have 130 performance at 120% power. So HT does...
Jun 25, 2024
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Intel p-core team did in their slides. Their optimized SMTless core beat SMT-version throughput even when counting SMT-version two...
Jun 25, 2024
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Take a closer look. Optimized 1t-core have that 5% better power-efficiency even against total throughput of 2-threads of HT-core. Only...
Jun 24, 2024
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See 30% uplift for 120% power. At other slide they tell that by dropping HT they could increase power efficiency 15%. So it's a wash -...
Jun 24, 2024
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128B L1-L2 bandwith is needed to allow full AVX512-bandwidth from L2. With only 64B L1-read bandwidth from AVX2 128B L1-L2 bandwidth...
Jun 20, 2024
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Actually they just changed their approach, Zen5 is just like Intel's AVX512-designs and Intel choose for their laptop and...
Jun 15, 2024
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Of course designs are simulated, about 100% accuracy nowadays. After Intel results they sure should not brother to implement SMT-version...
Jun 14, 2024
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