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I'd like to see two separate threads, one for the server+desktop CPUs, and the other for mobile oriented products. It's just become too...
Jun 10, 2024
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That is a fair remark, albeit a bit removed from discussing CPU architectures and developments among enthusiasts. I equally have no...
Jun 10, 2024
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Yeah, that is very obvious. Not sure what these things have to do with each other. You can have great end-user experience and high...
Jun 10, 2024
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Law of large numbers is not the right term here, indeed. I'd describe it more in terms of diminishing returns. A more interesting point...
Jun 10, 2024
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Sure, AMD and Intel probably have more room to grow IPC by going wider and Apple has more frequency to gain by going bigger as well. It...
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It is easier for Intel/AMD to get bigger IPC improvements because they're behind. Let's see how big their improvements are when they...
Jun 9, 2024
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Apple has been delivering consistent year to year performance improvements. Apples M3->M4 transition alone is comparable to Zen4->Zen5...
Jun 9, 2024
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Of course this is a nonsensical result. It is equally as nonsensical to cherry-pick a known (and well understood!) limitation of a test...
Jun 6, 2024
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Cinebench R23 is a benchmark of SIMD throughtput and L1 cache bandwidth. It's as useful for assessing general CPU performance as...
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Agree here. Apple pushing power is still a long ways from the levels Intel and AMD have or rather Intel did with their stagnation...
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Which is why compares across multiple results to quantify uncertainty. It works, even if the individual results are unreliable. There is...
Jun 4, 2024
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And I have seen power consumpion of M1 at around 5 watts (3.2Ghz) and M4 at aroudn 7 (4.05 Ghz). So their M4 results I can agree with...
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Given the variability in the results and how sensitive they are to external factors I don't trust point estimates anymore. Just a 100Mhz...
Jun 3, 2024
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It was around 5 watts for M1, it is around 7 watts for M4. Let's say 50% increase. Looks bad on paper, until we remember that these are...
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Maybe it’s time to put this argument to rest? In the last 4 years Apple had more ST gains than any x86 designer, and their rate of...
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