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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    Continuing this logic: 10nm -> Intel 10 10nm+ -> 10 -> Intel 9 10nm++ -> 10SF -> Intel 8 10nm+++ -> 10ESF -> Intel 7
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    Discussion Intel - the cost of BACKPORTING

    Decoupling was EXACTLY done so you could backport. Bringing it to a next gen process is much easier. It was very clear from the words used in the interview that they wanted to prevent a future repetition of stagnation in architecture when f.i. 7nm also turns out problematic. And regarding the...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    Dude seriously. It is literally stated in that quote that Willow Cove 11th Gen will be extended to 8-core products. Rocket Lake is *not* Willow Cove. The H-range is based on Willow cove and 10nm SF. Doing anything else for their top of the line H product - seeing Rocket Lake's horrible...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    It is widely known rocket lake H has been cancelled. For mobile it would be a powerhog. Not sure why you think they would launch a 14nm previous gen Sunny Cove backport for mobile when they also have Tiger Like on 10nm SF.
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    Discussion Intel - the cost of BACKPORTING

    No way in hell it was just 18 months ago. Remember Rocket Lake is delayed by half a year. Add a year on top of that since you need about two years if all goes according to plan. Not bothered to look it up but I seem to remember JIm Keller stated they succesfully decoupled process from design...
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    Question Another potential big blow to Intel

    Ok I'll break it down more simply for you then. Multicore performance is just slapping more cores on within the same thermal design envelope (TDP), so a 4+4 core ARM processor would offer similar MC performance to a 2+4 core Apple A14 if perf/watt is similar and both are designed around a...
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    Question Another potential big blow to Intel

    That's not really much of a problem rather than a choice. A77 isn't much worse in perf/watt because they are/will be fabbed on the same process node. That's not what this is about. Perf/watt might matter for the smartphone as there is a certain top TDP that has restrained the Apple designs, but...
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    Question Another potential big blow to Intel

    This is all true but then you frased your remark a bit unclear. Question isn't what they can improve (we've seen Apple show what can be done) but how. Clearly Microsoft thinks they can, and as to who: I've read (was it on these forums?) that the entire SPARC team moved to Microsoft after Oracle...
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    Question Another potential big blow to Intel

    This is a strange thing to say if you are even a bit familiair with the ARM design landscape. Qualcomm uses the stock ARM designs and although they are good Apple is miles ahead and showing the potential of ARM. Just riding on the default ARM option offered by Qualcomm won't get Microsoft any...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    Again, it's not twice as much when you look at the full transistor count including uncore. Also: various parts have various density and transistor size does not 1:1 translate to higher density. This is something many people have trouble to wrap their head round but transistors beyond their...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    Then you haven't read anything about Intel in the past two years. With the announcement of the Cove architectures they explicitly mentioned they decoupled architecture form process node and the internal revolution it caused. Rocket Lake is a first example but Alder Lake and it's variants might...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    firewolfsm is correct. You don't understand where the improvement comes from and assume it's from increased density. the 14nm+ and beyond density is lower then the original 14nm and has remained such. The improved power usage is mostly from reduced leakage and lower voltages and to a lesser...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    I know it's just anecdotal evidence, but as a small engineering office we also moved all our personnel to laptops in the summer. It was just two additional laptops since most already moved to laptops but that decision really simplified our IT and support structure.
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    Any way you slice it this will not be the case with Alder Lake given the many different configurations tested and the rumored SKU's. So the question is rather, how to make sense of 4 tiers when there are so many different core and thread counts. Comet Lake, whatever you might think of it, had...
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    I saw the Moore's Law is Dead episode of the Redwood Cove leak/rumor but the Alder Lake SKU's dont make sense to me. Personally I'm thinking in each segments (i9/i7/i5/i3) there will be a distinction between k and non-k not just in clocks and overclocking but in secondary cores to further...
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