Die shrunk Fury X would see some "free" clock increase, shifts the MHz curve about 20% iirc the evaluation of 28nm to 16/14nm.
Look at Polaris, within 10% of Vega in terms of optimal MHz. Polaris did not need a hefty chunk of "clocking" die budget to get there. Something else is going on with...
Hope AMD is dedicating enough resources for Navi to see a big enough improvement in performance/transistor. Something went very wrong with Vega, a die shrunk Fury would have been out a year ago and been similar to Vega56 gaming performance.
Same with a Vega-sized Polaris with GDDR5X. That might...
It's the loss of institutional knowledge and experience we are seeing with the new, cheaper teams in China and India. Let's hope AMD kept some top talent for Navi development. Without major design gains in efficiency AMD will have issues providing good SoCs in both consumer and B2B markets...
This looks bad for Vega perf/W. Now we have the enthusiast community hoping the "prosumer" card was launched to lower expectations (derailing the hype train) and gaming Vega will still be between 1080 and 1080Ti.
Not looking good.
My prediction: Vega HBM will be up against renamed Pascal 20XX cards for holidays 2017. Smaller Vega with GDDR of some flavor and mainstream Volta show up 1H 2018.
Nvidia pricing at the high end is actually tolerable for 2017 with the 1080 and 1070 price drops. Given the costs of the current nodes the 1080 TI pricing is a bit of a surprise pointing to Nvidia expecting AMD Vega to be at least some competition.
They would then have no Q1 Zen revenue booked. Shame AMD appears to have little weight with the MS Windows team combined with unfortunate timing. Note MS is going through a change in their Windows 10 update procedures, they only released security fixes on the February update.
Intel has made similar CPUs, their HEDT line. 6700K/7700K OC is on top of everything for gaming averages, feel free to correct my memory but the only thing Intel's HEDT line got from reviewers was "pricey but worth it if you need the cores".
Personally, I'm waiting for the revised motherboards. Every new uArch it's like this, 2-3 months should see Rev 1.1 boards and MS qualify AMDs Windows 10 submissions. Sounds like there will also be some game patches by then as well.
Zen looks really good actually, except max OC. Wonder why all...
Where are all the efficiency crusaders? Really solid professional/server (non-AVX) CPU imo. Memory controller and IO have actually seen big improvements after AMD went outside for those design blocks. Will likely have to wait for Zen+ for better OC potential. If Polaris is a bellwether for GF...
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