[DHT]Osiris
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Joke's on you, that's my fetish.Oh man would you guys be so sad, haha.
Joke's on you, that's my fetish.Oh man would you guys be so sad, haha.
Ummm. Apart from the entertainment factor is whether they slept together relevant to the case? It's that he paid her money out of campaign funds then covered it up that's the issue isn't it?
This sounds like the media because they want to attract eyes to show ads to. Making money is all there is. He who dies with the most toys wins. Civic duty is a luxury media companies can't afford. All I know is that Trump can make a trial last a century but can't last more than a few minutes in bed. Yuk Yuk YukNo it’s not and all the salacious details will probably have to be stricken from the record at the request of the prosecution otherwise the defense might be able to use such testimony to their advantage.
What really bothers me about this case is house the media is portraying it as a hush money case instead of a fraud case. The fact that he slept with a porn star and paid to shut her up or keep the story quiet is irrelevant to the charges and the media is doing a real disservice by portraying it as anything but a fraud case.
It means unsubducted.You almost had me. No way be knows what addled means.
As @Brovane explained, not campaign funds. The 34 felony counts are basically over falsifying his business records; the "hush money" payment itself is legal. As far as violating campaign finance laws, that would be up to the FEC to determine but they are feckless in the U.S. It doesn't make much sense for the Manhattan D.A. to prosecute over federal campaign finance violations, and I'm not aware that they are trying.
Court doesn't meet on Wednesdays, honeybunch.This is an interesting take from Orange Fartasaurus's niece:
BTW when's the trial set to resume? Is it today?
I’m surprised he hasn’t dropped dead with the stress from this trial. Well here’s hoping Cohen can induce a heart attack.Also Trump looking great this morning.
Lol wait for Governor Gaetz
The public humiliation is his kryptonite and Daniels is bringing it by the fucking truckload!!! @skyking gonna need the biggest front end loader to drop this shit on him.
“This is a woman willing to meet Trump at his preferred site of conflict – public humiliation – and on the evidence so far, he isn’t weathering it well.”
“If Trump destroys women by reducing them to sexist tropes, Daniels has come back at him with exactly the same.”
“Trump and his team know what Daniels is doing – which is flatly, salaciously and in incredible detail – making an absolute mockery of him in front of the world.”
Mockery, low tactics, sexist tropes: gloriously, Stormy Daniels is repaying Donald Trump in kind | Emma Brockes | The Guardian
The GA case is dead. It's unlikely that the GA court of appeals will hand down a decision on Willis until next year.
The FL case is suspended indefinitely, likely dead. Jack Smith fucked up. Witness intimidation. Mishandling evidence. Lots of fuckups on his part. Not to mention he might not even be legally appointed to prosecute the case in the first place.
The DC case is waiting for SCOTUS to render its decision on presidential immunity. It was a speech given while president so likely also dead, but we'll see. Plus if it's found that Smith wasn't legally appointed to the FL case, then he wasn't legally appointed to this one either.
So that leaves the NDA case in NY.
The most charitable version of what is going down with Judge Engoron:
https://www.salon.com/2024/05/09/in...s-very-troubling-chat-with-lawyer-about-case/
Sorry Boomer, I couldn't find a more left leaning source. Maybe Rolling Stone has published something. You should go look.
NYP: https://nypost.com/2024/05/09/us-ne...trump-judge-over-unsolicited-advice-on-trial/
tl;dr - An attorney said in a news interview that he had a conversation about the Trump trial with the judge, in which he gave the judge some advice about the case. The judge apparently never cut the conversation short. He was fully engaged. This is a huge fuckup if true. Judges are under the same rules as jurors in that they are not allowed to discuss the case outside the courtroom with parties who are not directly associated with the case. The judge is now under investigation by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct.
"But he was wholly uninfluenced!" Doesn't matter. The fact that he had the conversation is what counts.
This guy is going to be very confused when those things don’t happen. (Except the delays, which are unfortunately real)Here's the right wing spin on this and the other Trump cases from one of the posters over yonder:
Here's the right wing spin on this and the other Trump cases from one of the posters over yonder:
Pecker's home was swatted on the day of his testimony: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex...tness-trump-trial-swatting-target-2024-05-06/
So, in a way, someone attempted to harm Pecker.
First I've heard of any of this: "The FL case is suspended indefinitely, likely dead. Jack Smith fucked up. Witness intimidation. Mishandling evidence. Lots of fuckups on his part. Not to mention he might not even be legally appointed to prosecute the case in the first place."Here's the right wing spin on this and the other Trump cases from one of the posters over yonder:
First I've heard of any of this: "The FL case is suspended indefinitely, likely dead. Jack Smith fucked up. Witness intimidation. Mishandling evidence. Lots of fuckups on his part. Not to mention he might not even be legally appointed to prosecute the case in the first place."
Trump lawyer Necheles and Daniels back and forth over who and what she meant by “orange turd” is hilarious and Trump just sitting there with no choice but to take it has got to be killing him. Daniels ability to think quickly on her feet appears to be quite good. I suspect that a lot of people, because of her profession, assume that she’s stupid. She clearly isn’t and seems fully capable of out-playing Necheles.
The back and forth went like this per the transcripts:
Necheles: Isn’t it a fact you keep posting on social media how you’re going to be instrumental in putting President Trump in jail?
Daniels: Show me where I said I’d be “instrumental in putting President Trump in jail”.
Necheles: Alright. If we could show the witness J-43, please… Do you recognize that as your post?
Daniels: Yes. And I don’t see the word “instrumental” or “jail”.
Necheles: Blow it up a little bit more. (they display the post for everyone to see.) You were responding to the post, someone else’s post there?
Daniels: Yes. Someone calling me a “human toilet”. So I capitalized on the joke.
Necheles: The other post “Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels a/k/a the human toilet are star witnesses.” Right?
Daniels: Yes.
Necheles: You said, “Exactly. Making me the best person to flush the orange turd down.”
Daniels: Yes. …I don’t see “instrumental” or “jail” there. You’re putting words in my mouth.
Necheles: So, when you said you were “the best person to flush the orange turd down” you weren’t saying you were going to be instrumental in causing him to be convicted of a crime; that was not what you meant?
Daniels: No.
Necheles: What does that mean?
Daniels: I am pretty sure it is hyperbole. If somebody calls me a “toilet”, I say I can “flush” somebody. See how that works?
Necheles: You said you were going to “flush” President Trump?
Daniels: I didn’t say “President Trump”. It says “orange turd”. So if that’s what’s interpreted by you…
Necheles: What do you mean?
Daniels: I don’t know what I mean.
Necheles: You have no idea…
Daniels: I’m also not a toilet, so it’s all…
Necheles: I’m asking whether you knew what you meant when you said “orange turd”?
Daniels: Yes, I do.
Necheles: What did you mean?
Daniels: I meant I’m not a “human toilet”, so if they want to make fun of me, I can make fun of them.
Necheles: You don’t want to admit you meant Mr. Trump.
Daniels: I absolutely meant Mr. Trump.
Necheles: Why did you say no?
Daniels: It doesn’t say “instrumental” and “putting him in jail”.
The back and forth pretty much lays out what a fucking moron Necheles appears to be. It is clear all of these lawyers are making fools of themselves, presumably because they are letting DTJ dictate their line of questioning that has been reported as so.
Necheles is a somewhat attractive older woman. But she’s not conventionally pretty in the way Trump likes his women to be. But while Trump would probably have preferred Alina Habba to be his attack dog here, his other lawyers probably told him that if that is the case he might as well just report directly to jail right now. So Necheles is part of Trump’s legal team, but we can see he clearly does not like her. She is not his “type”. Whenever Trump entourage leaves the courtroom, she is always at the back and out of his sight line. He is probably furious that he has to be defended by a woman who is not attractive enough, and hopefully she can perceive this coming off of Trump in waves, in addition to the body odor, shitty diaper stink, makeup and musky cologne fumes and ketchup scent. Why did she draw out a discussion about “the orange turd”? Maybe because she knows exactly who that refers to and it’s one way she can get some passive-aggressive revenge on him while he just has to sit there and take it.
I would’ve loved a bizarro Col. Jessup moment to have unfolded....
Necheles: To whom were you referring to when you said “orange turd?”
Daniels: I don’t know.
Necheles: You were referring to President Trump, correct?
Daniels: What do you think?
Necheles: I think I want you to admit Donald Trump is the “orange turd.”
Daniels: Do you think Donald Trump is an “orange turd?”
Necheles: YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DO!