Rio Vista Bracero Reception Center Designated National Historic Landmark

Greenman

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I have an in law who immigrated to the U.S. through the Bracero program. To this day he thinks it was a good idea that worked out well.
 

BoomerD

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The Bracero program was agreat idea that was horribly implemented.
Want to stop illegal immigration?(or at least slow it severely)
Set up a guest worker program similar to the Bracero program...Withhold 50% of a worker's wages, pay it ONLY when they return to Mexico or where ever...but actually PAY THEM.
 
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hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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The Bracero program was agreat idea that was horribly implemented.
Want to stop illegal immigration?(or at least slow it severely)
Set up a guest worker program similar to the Bracero program...Withhold 50% of a worker's wages, pay it ONLY when they return to Mexico or where ever...but actually PAY THEM.
This is why you needed a /s after your Obama quip in the other thread.
 

K1052

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The Bracero program was agreat idea that was horribly implemented.
Want to stop illegal immigration?(or at least slow it severely)
Set up a guest worker program similar to the Bracero program...Withhold 50% of a worker's wages, pay it ONLY when they return to Mexico or where ever...but actually PAY THEM.

I don't think withholding somebody's pay for potentially years is a good idea. Employers are bound to abuse that. Just disqualify them from the program if they don't exit on time with a modest grace period and avenue for appeal in extenuating circumstances (like they are in the hospital).
 

BoomerD

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I don't think withholding somebody's pay for potentially years is a good idea. Employers are bound to abuse that. Just disqualify them from the program if they don't exit on time with a modest grace period and avenue for appeal in extenuating circumstances (like they are in the hospital).

Shouldn’t be for years. They come, work the season, go home, get paid.
 

K1052

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Shouldn’t be for years. They come, work the season, go home, get paid.

H-2 max duration is already 1-3 years depending on the type. Longer guest worker visas are preferable for a variety of reasons which is why they've been a feature of every attempt to reform the program as long as I can remember.
 
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BoomerD

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H-2 max duration is already 1-3 years depending on the type. Longer guest worker visas are preferable for a variety of reasons which is why they've been a feature of every attempt to reform the program as long as I can remember.

Yes…and they have to apply to extend every year.


Generally, USCIS may grant H-2A classification for up to the period of time authorized on the temporary labor certification. H-2A classification may be extended for qualifying employment in increments of up to 1 year each. A new, valid temporary labor certification covering the requested time must accompany each extension request. The maximum period of stay in H-2A classification is 3 years.

A person who has held H-2A nonimmigrant status for a total of 3 years must depart and remain outside the United States for an uninterrupted period of 3 months before seeking readmission as an H-2A nonimmigrant. Additionally, previous time spent in other H or L classifications counts toward total H-2A time.

Exception: Certain periods of time spent outside of the United States may “interrupt” an H-2A worker’s authorized stay and not count toward the 3-year limit. See the Calculating Interrupted Stay for H-2 Classifications Web page for additional information.
 

K1052

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Yes…and they have to apply to extend every year.


Yeah so that's what I'm saying. Withholding pay for the duration of their H-2 stay, which could be up to three years, is a bad idea and opens up workers to abuse.
 
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BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Yeah so that's what I'm saying. Withholding pay for the duration of their H-2 stay, which could be up to three years, is a bad idea and opens up workers to abuse.
Just make them leave the country for 30 days every year.
 
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