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exactly! It's something that only quislings say.It wasn't about the historical accuracy of the analogy, but rather the sentiment behind the statement.
You're a coward and an idiot.
exactly! It's something that only quislings say.It wasn't about the historical accuracy of the analogy, but rather the sentiment behind the statement.
Non-violent white collar crime does immense damage to our country and the best way to stop it is with very harsh prison sentences. Someone addicted to drugs or stealing because they are hungry aren't deterred by prison. But super wealthy white people sure are.
How many people have died as a result of Purdue pharma's non-violent crimes? How many people have lost their life savings due to conmen and fraudulent businesses? Why don't you ask a retired 75 year-old that lost their life savings to Enron if those were non-violent crimes. We should look at the actually outcomes, I'd much rather someone threaten me and take my wallet than steal my wages for years, yet one would get you 10 years and the other is completely ignored.
not really. The Nazis strong-armed the ruling party to appoint him Chancellor. He wasn't ever voted into the position. He was voted into their legislature, whatever you call it.
Violent offenders need to be separated from society and actually rehabilitated. Otherwise, prison sucks for everyone involved. Enron and Purdue? The perpetrators should be left destitute and sentenced to a decade of daily community service, strictly overseen and enforced.Non-violent white collar crime does immense damage to our country and the best way to stop it is with very harsh prison sentences. Someone addicted to drugs or stealing because they are hungry aren't deterred by prison. But super wealthy white people sure are.
How many people have died as a result of Purdue pharma's non-violent crimes? How many people have lost their life savings due to conmen and fraudulent businesses? Why don't you ask a retired 75 year-old that lost their life savings to Enron if those were non-violent crimes. We should look at the actually outcomes, I'd much rather someone threaten me and take my wallet than steal my wages for years, yet one would get you 10 years and the other is completely ignored.
Somewhat poorly written, but a decent explanation of what's going to happen.
100%. And for the trumpiest crimes. If Trump had simply admitted to what he'd done in both cases, there'd be 0 indictments.In what way are Trump's 34 convictions and what's it: 60-some remaining indictments, political prosecutions?
He is being legitimately charged with actual crimes that multiple grand juries decided he very likely committed (also don't forget that he basically admitted to all of it, multiple times).
Trump is prosecuting Trump. Don't ever fucking forget that.
His ego finally caught up with him. It didn't permit him to admit fault. A narcissist insists that the world adapt to his view of things and that went great for him right up until he became extremely public as the president and was given sufficient rope to hang himself.100%. And for the trumpiest crimes. If Trump had simply admitted to what he'd done in both cases, there'd be 0 indictments.
"Yeah I had sex with a porn star. So what?"
"Hey sorry national archives here's your stuff back"
But Trump's unwillingness to admit to any blemish or error has finally caught up with him.
not really. The Nazis strong-armed the ruling party to appoint him Chancellor. He wasn't ever voted into the position. He was voted into their legislature, whatever you call it.
Epic stupid is supposed to hurt.In what way are Trump's 34 convictions and what's it: 60-some remaining indictments, political prosecutions?
He is being legitimately charged with actual crimes that multiple grand juries decided he very likely committed (also don't forget that he basically admitted to all of it, multiple times).
Trump is prosecuting Trump. Don't ever fucking forget that.
In this regard, it does not matter what you think.In what way are Trump's 34 convictions and what's it: 60-some remaining indictments, political prosecutions?
If this came out before the election, he very likely wouldn't have been elected. His election and his horrible record on COVID lead to hundreds of thousands of extra deaths in the US. His environmental policy have allowed for more water and air pollution. His supreme court has lead to women having serious medical issues that doctors won't treat.I have very mixed-feelings about that. I'm pretty sure I've argued both sides at different times (i.e. I vaguely remember arguing somewhere that the rich and powerful can cause harm and benefit themselves without needing to be personally violent, precisely because they have power so can get others to do the dirty-work for them - hence people at the top can be 'charming' and personally 'nice' while still causing immense harm).
But at the same time, having endured serious harassment and threats of violence from people in my immediate environs, I don't want those people released from prison to be free to going back to making my life a misery, just to make room in those prisons for people who don't pose such a traumatic threat (and who, to the degree they do pose a threat, can be dealt with by simply removing their social, political or economic power, without having to go to all the expense and trouble of physically locking them up).
Trump is only a threat insofar as the system gives him economic and political power. As an individual he's as threatening as a clown.
You can't allow him to overthrow the government and ignore all laws because his supporters are part of a cult. The real take away from Hitler is that you actually have to punish insurrectionists and not give them the opportunity to seek power. This is why the 14th amendment bans insurrectionists from running, too bad the supreme court doesn't actually follow the Constitution.In this regard, it does not matter what you think.
This is about your enemy seeking revenge and vowing to do the "same" thing to you and yours.
It matters that THEY believe it is political persecution. For in those words, they will take action to normalize it going forward.
It’s pure projection. They use the law and their power to initiate bogus investigations and make bogus claims all for political reasons/gains so they think that’s what democrats do.In what way are Trump's 34 convictions and what's it: 60-some remaining indictments, political prosecutions?
He is being legitimately charged with actual crimes that multiple grand juries decided he very likely committed (also don't forget that he basically admitted to all of it, multiple times).
Trump is prosecuting Trump. Don't ever fucking forget that.
Yep, the Nazi party never had more than 37.4% of the vote (curiously and terrifyingly, that's about the % of Americans who are trump cultists). In the next German election they had lost support and got just 33.1% of the vote. That was the last election before Hitler seized power by manufacturing a crisis and bargaining for the support of the German military by murdering his own private army.
Yep, the Nazi party never had more than 37.4% of the vote (curiously and terrifyingly, that's about the % of Americans who are trump cultists). In the next German election they had lost support and got just 33.1% of the vote. That was the last election before Hitler seized power by manufacturing a crisis and bargaining for the support of the German military by murdering his own private army.
You skipped over the step where you show how this was a political prosecution and not just a small step towards well-deserved justice. How exactly did politicians get this past a grand jury and a regular jury? Republicans tried to do that with Hillary and failed miserably.Somewhat poorly written, but a decent explanation of what's going to happen.
That badge of honor bullshit is exactly that, BS. At a minimum there will be people who voted for him before that won't show up this time.Perhaps controversially I think being convicted of three dozen felonies is actually bad electorally.
For all the R chest pounding about how they’re going to vote even harder for the felon that they were already voting for some early evidence emerging that indies are not real thrilled with this.
Yup these party over country are traitors just as much as their orange monkey king. Biden should offer medal of freedom to everyone that switches over from R to D in NovemberThat badge of honor bullshit is exactly that, BS. At a minimum there will be people who voted for him before that won't show up this time.
Somewhat poorly written, but a decent explanation of what's going to happen.
I wonder if all the people who are so concerned about the prospect of prosecuting a former president thought about the consequences of letting presidents know they can commit crimes with impunity.