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Mahboi

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>Jensen spoils Strix Point announcement
They don't make Nvidia sign NDA's for this?
It's not very serious, if anything it's an admission of defeat for NV to be finally paired with AMD CPUs and to be presenting them to everyone on their own keynote, and it'll create hype a few hours beforehand for the product. But it's a strange move.
 

Panino Manino

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Nobody gives a flying feather about what MS will ask in terms of tech specs for the next version of Windows of for whatever killer new features. Believe it or not, it's MS who's more worried about what we ask of them to prop their adoption rates.

Imagine not being able to convince your users to upgrade for free.

Oh, this remembers.
AMD is making a BIG MISTAKE is supporting only W11.
They need to revert this back and make drivers for W10.
 

Nothingness

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81 Total Platform TOPS: 50 TOPs NPU + 31 TOPs CPU(!!!)
Given the wording, I think the 31 TOPS is CPU + 800M

Even assuming 4 AVX-512 running INT8 FMA at a throughput of one each cycle (which is very unlikely) that's 12 cores * 2 op * 64 vector length * 4 units = 6144 op/cycle. You'd need the 12 cores to run at 5 GHz which also is unlikely when running AVX-512 code.
 

FlameTail

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We got a long term roadmap and nothing else of value.
Well my ranking of the keynotes before the event is holding up nicely.
1: AMD - Subject of the thread and then some
2: Intel - They actually have some good IP again, yay
3: Qualcomm - TBH they have little else to show, but at least some finality
4: NV - I want my 2 hours back, cool roadmap guys
My ranking:
1. AMD
2. Qualcomm
3. Intel
4. ARM
5. Nvidia
 
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FlameTail

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Ryzen AI 300
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81 Total Platform TOPS: 50 TOPs NPU + 31 TOPs CPU(!!!)
Radeon 800M Next-Gen RDNA 3+ Graphics
Umm... isn't some of the Platform TOPS also coming from the iGPU?

Platform TOPS = CPU + GPU + NPU
 
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Ghostsonplanets

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Given the wording, I think the 31 TOPS is CPU + 800M

Even assuming 4 AVX-512 running INT8 FMA at a throughput of one each cycle (which is very unlikely) that's 12 cores * 2 op * 64 vector length * 4 units = 6144 op/cycle. You'd need the 12 cores to run at 5 GHz which also is unlikely when running AVX-512 code.
Umm... isn't some of the Platform TOPS also coming from the iGPU?

Platform TOPS = CPU + GPU + NPU
Correct. The 31 TOPs figure is for CPU + GPU combined. I missed that detail when doing the post. Thanks both of you for the correction.
 
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Abwx

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AMD got the sockets for the super premium HP Omnibook Ultra and Studio? (Previously known as Spectre, Dragonfly, etc)

What are Lisa and Mike cooking? These are all usually Intel dominated designs wins.

Less than 10 hours for AMD keynote...

With 50% more cores than Hawk Point you get 2.5x the perf/watt at same throughput, and that would be with 12 Zen 4 cores, so given that it s cores with higher IPC i let you imagine how much the competition is lagging since it couldnt even match the previous AMD 8C APU in the 15 - 45W range.
 

eek2121

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Just 11 hours for Lisa Su to deliver the truth. Gonna be interesting to see the end of this wild ride.
Slides should leak out before then.
We got a long term roadmap and nothing else of value.
Well my ranking of the keynotes before the event is holding up nicely.
1: AMD - Subject of the thread and then some
2: Intel - They actually have some good IP again, yay
3: Qualcomm - TBH they have little else to show, but at least some finality
4: NV - I want my 2 hours back, cool roadmap guys
Ugh, that NVIDIA keynote… 🤮
 

Mahboi

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Those next 24 hours are going to be so hype. We enter it with a Nvidia pres so bad it's shameful that Jensen had it. And we're gonna follow with AMD and QC?
AMD got the sockets for the super premium HP Omnibook Ultra and Studio? (Previously known as Spectre, Dragonfly, etc)

What are Lisa and Mike cooking? These are all usually Intel dominated designs wins.

Less than 10 hours for AMD keynote...
You know the hype is reaching max when people start counting down the hours/minutes.
 
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