Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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poke01

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After this AMD keynote, I will be looking forward to WWDC and see what Apple plans for their software. It certainly won’t include what MS did last month.

People will make comparisons, especially the media. It’s pity that AMD hardware comes with Windows as standard in laptops with how Microsoft is destroying the reputation of Windows security and privacy.
MS Pluton, Recall set to default.

What happened to Windows 7 level of development? It had everything design, performance and functionality.
 

DrMrLordX

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No I meant, in the reaction list. Like / Haha / Love / Wow could use at least a Sad or Cry / Meh / Anger.

There was at least one negative reaction when they added Likes years ago (AT is an old forum, and didn't have social media-esque reactions for a very long time). Eventually the negative reactions were removed because of users trolling people with them. They would just follow the target from one thread to the next, bombing every post instead of replying with rebuttal or anything similar.

This is one of the things I actually look forward to AI being useful for - "hey Siri, watch this Youtube video for me and provide a written transcript that elides all the ads, [once Google finally figures out how to make me actually see any] talk about sponsors, and self-promotional crap"

I generally refuse to watch Youtube videos that are just talking - and I've found it is safe to assume that if you're given a link to Youtube video as a source of "news" 99% of the time it is pushing conspiracy theories and/or highly slanted partisan bs. If Google ever succeeds in making me see ads on Youtube with either Linux/Firefox/uBlock or iPhone/Safari/FirefoxFocus I'll give it up completely unless/until I can get Siri to watch it for me. Then Google will be out to figure out a way to prevent AIs from watching Youtube - good luck find a CAPTCHA for Youtube that AIs can't do but doesn't annoy humans to the point of near insanity lol!

Just an FYI, but YouTube should be able to generate a transcript for any video that has closed captions. In fact there are services that can take a video URL and spit out a transcript for you. Here's one:


Once we start getting some serious deep dive videos on Zen5 (hopefully soon maybe eh) you won't have to slog through them unless you really want to do so.
 

stayfrosty

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16% ipc increase... if we take one lesson from this it's don't trust leakers

 

AAbattery

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There was at least one negative reaction when they added Likes years ago (AT is an old forum, and didn't have social media-esque reactions for a very long time). Eventually the negative reactions were removed because of users trolling people with them. They would just follow the target from one thread to the next, bombing every post instead of replying with rebuttal or anything similar.



Just an FYI, but YouTube should be able to generate a transcript for any video that has closed captions. In fact there are services that can take a video URL and spit out a transcript for you. Here's one:


Once we start getting some serious deep dive videos on Zen5 (hopefully soon maybe eh) you won't have to slog through them unless you really want to do so.
For videos that don't have transcriptions yet or have them disabled I use Google's Live Transcribe app if I am watching the video live and just need a transcript to go with it, and otherwise I use something like whisper v3 which is available at a few places in a few different forms. Not sure yet which is best, most convenient and also works for long videos.

Whisper is also much more accurate than YouTube's transcripts.
 

adroc_thurston

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16% ipc increase... if we take one lesson from this it's don't trust leakers

Whoa, that's low.
How does this work with Turin perf.
 

Markfw

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16% ipc increase... if we take one lesson from this it's don't trust leakers

First, The leaker (adroc_thurston) said 39% in ONE benchmark, we have not seen that disproved yet. I will wait ultimately until benchmarks come out in later this month or early July.

But gaming 4% to 23%, and productivity 7% to 56% ? Thats more like what I expected.
 

adroc_thurston

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First, The leaker (adroc_thurston) said 39% in ONE benchmark, we have not seen that disproved yet. I will wait ultimately until benchmarks come out in later this month or early July.
I said ~32% in SIR which this isn't.
Either Turin perf is down or client workloads somehow map worse to Zen5 which is a first for AMD.
 
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