How do I get 50% moar skt score off a 96c Turin at 16% moar PPC?Yeah, I mean, they've been hanging around +15% for multiple microarchitecture generations on top of a pretty solid baseline. That's not bad, especially since they've done it on a reasonably quick cadence. (But it was kind of funny watching this thread whip itself into a frenzy about how +25% or higher was a done deal and +40% was plausible...)
And nobody has addressed the efficiency yet. Even at 16% perf at the same wattage, means perf/watt is even better that Zen 4, and that blew Intel awayYeah, I mean, they've been hanging around +15% for multiple microarchitecture generations on top of a pretty solid baseline. That's not bad, especially since they've done it on a reasonably quick cadence. (But it was kind of funny watching this thread whip itself into a frenzy about how +25% or higher was a done deal and +40% was plausible...)
How do I get 50% moar skt score off a 96c Turin at 16% moar PPC?
And now we gotta figure it out!And yet here we are.
They didn't put y-cruncher or w-prime or anything like that.You know it's bad when you have to include Geekbench 5 AES separately in the IPC comparison. I don't even trust that the actual IPC uplift is +16%, unless verified independently after launch.
This makes Apple look even better.That's not bad, especially since they've done it on a reasonably quick cadence.
And now we gotta figure it out!
That's not the issue.And nobody has addressed the efficiency yet. Even at 16% perf at the same wattage, means perf/watt is even better that Zen 4, and that blew Intel away
Not that much.better L3 eviction strategy can make a serious impact
Doesn't look like it given how nonexistent perf uplift from SMT on is on Turin-D.SMT improvements (increase in replicated vs competitively shared structures?)
It's SIR n-copy, doesn't impact it much and given no uncore changes of note, also not happening.Lower latency to remote chiplet L3?
And it's faster there, just that they didn't put it for some reason.Those are actually more useful in a relative sense than GB5 AES.
Those are actually more useful in a relative sense than GB5 AES.They didn't put y-cruncher or w-prime or anything like that.
I'm happy to avoid the very hacky thread scheduling on X3D. Though I ofc hoped for more, given HandBrake, various AI tasks, and some non-X3D-boosted games I play.Gaming performance will probably be about the same as x3d zen 4. What a disappointment
Well, it just means everyone will be waiting for Z5 X3D before making a purchasing decision.Gaming performance will probably be about the same as x3d zen 4. What a disappointment
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If we remove the Geekbench AES test which I think uses AVX-512 its not good. These have to be fake or old but thts looking unlikely
That's only nT-relevant.Maybe it can go faster with more power?
I believe the top sku the IPC is tested against is still 170WI did noticed that the TDP decreased.
Maybe it can go faster with more power?
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If we remove the Geekbench AES test which I think uses AVX-512 its not good. These have to be fake or old but thts looking unlikely
Yeah and lower-end parts will look comparatively worse.I believe the top sku the IPC is tested against is still 170W
Dang, just hopped into this thread and I caught up.The issue is if the slides do leak and I show up to this thread at the start of the Keynote, there is a good chance y’all would be talking about IPC and performance targets and then all the surprise would be gone
How does this work with Turin perf.
Yep lmao. 16% ipc uplift is patheticDang, just hopped into this thread and I caught up.
Now my day is ruined and my disappointment is immeasurable.
No, on server side, the IOD is new.I think 96c Genoa is at least somewhat gimped by memory performance, it doesn't quite scale linearly in practice. If they improved that, it could result in Turin improving comparatively more than desktop Zen5.
Does Turin still use the same IOD?
If this is a real slide then saying +16% is being super generous. Look at the tests they're using to calculate that average.. They're using subtests of Geekbench (not the actual GB score) and using GB6 AES-XTS to artificially bring up the average.