Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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soresu

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Yeah, kind of wonder what Mike Clark was on about when talking Zen5, idk, two years+ ago. It’s almost like someone made him take a big cut to the Zen4- Zen5 xtor budget increase.
Could be some projected features for Zen5 were bumped to Zen6, kinda like what was said about Zen and Zen2.
 

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Base clocks are down 200-700 MHz for 9xxx vs 7xxx. Biggest loss is for the 9600X and 9700X. nT performance might be the same as Zen 4 for these SKUs (or at least workload dependent)....

AMD seems to have gone in opposite direction from what people expected.

Instead of more power for the bigger cores, it is using less power.

While not ideal for peak desktop performance, it is good for notebook and server performance.
 
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poke01

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Yeah, kind of wonder what Mike Clark was on about when talking Zen5, idk, two years+ ago. It’s almost like someone made him take a big cut to the Zen4- Zen5 xtor budget increase.
I think we shouldn't harp onto what architets say. Its almost not always performance but the design. Zen 5 should be the most interesting Zen design since OG Zen.
 

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Yeah, kind of wonder what Mike Clark was on about when talking Zen5, idk, two years+ ago. It’s almost like someone made him take a big cut to the Zen4- Zen5 xtor budget increase.
Well Clark might also not have anticipated leakers hyping this up so much even more — and further the PC landscape has changed a bit.
It did though.
yep, have heard this from Exist and some others to varying degrees
 

Exist50

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No? The CCD is barely bigger
What? The cores are quite a bit bigger. You're not redeeming Zen 5 with either area or power.
Yeah, kind of wonder what Mike Clark was on about when talking Zen5, idk, two years+ ago. It’s almost like someone made him take a big cut to the Zen4- Zen5 xtor budget increase.
Or sometimes hype, especially from high profile executives, is just hype.
 
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Exist50

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Again, the CCD is barely bigger.
And so is STX.

If you're trying to gloat, at least do it properly.
Are you itching to be wrong a third time, or would this be fourth? You spent months insulting people over what turned out to be complete BS. Maybe take a lesson from that?


Trolling is not allowed. But you knew that.


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Exist50

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Just popped in here to celebrate... ehh mate? I totally understand you.
Yup, lol. I bailed after the thread became nothing more than a circus of Zen 5 hype. It's kind of funny watching the backpedaling. After all, what's the point of a circus if you can't enjoy the clowns?




More trolling and insults. You need to stay in your Intel threads.


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Joe NYC

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How about those new Turin chiplets? Should be a single 16-core CCX now, otherwise not much point to it. Don't think any leaker came close to guessing that. Wonder how it would perform on desktop, if that's even theoretically possible without big sacrifices... if this means there will be more two different V-cache dies, or if AMD just abandons V-cache on desktop now.

That's the only Turin that was shown - Turin D with 16c CCDs.
 
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