Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Joe NYC

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Why ask someone just caught red handed lying to everyone for the last year?
We will see how the SpecInt Rate turn out for servers.

There are 2 ways to get there. Either higher power, same or lower clock speed and much higher IPC.

Or, if the power consumption is lower, server chip can run at higher all core clock speed and would need lower IPC to get there.
 
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Jayzen

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Not an MLID slide. I was the one that convinced Adored not to do a video on it, because the IPC number was lower than expected. My fault for accidentally giving MLID more credibility.
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Then this is proof that you knew this entire time that the "30-40% IPC gain" claim was crock, and yet you still spread it. Given your previous record, I am not surprised.
 

Saylick

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You know what was conspicuously absent? Not a single mention of perf/watt. The Zen 4 & RDNA3 presentation dedicated some time to the topic (as well as a slide or 2) and yet it was not mentioned a single time for Zen 5 reveal.
Perf/W increases by 30% in SIR n-copy. You heard it here first.

/s
 
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Geddagod

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V-Cache will save the day in gaming so we are more or less status quo assuming LNC is a similar IPC bump with a small clock regression.
I think Zen 5 X3D will win by a greater margin than Zen 4X3D vs RPL (which is pretty close to a tie), but no longer will power be a thing of mockery when referring to Intel in gaming ( at least I hope).
Turin: Still dominant, looks better than desktop does for sure.
IMO, the opposite. Client has a better time dealing with the lower than expected IPC gains than server because DIY can cope with 3D V-cache. For servers, Granite Rapids looks much more competitive with Turin now. Both are 128C, Turin should have the per-core perf advantage, but if RWC can manage to clock higher (given a certain amount of power), or at least close to Zen 5....
Strix: Good, should be enough to justify the big jump in design wins, also looks a bit smaller than expected.
Strix is really interesting. ARL-H's NPU isn't rumored to be powerful enough to reach Microsoft's soft requirement of 40 TOPs, is it? Regardless, I'm glad there is an AMD G16 option now from Asus. I skipped out on the AMD g14 options when I bought my 12900h M16 because I wanted the larger screen, and the other larger screen AMD options from other brands had unreasonable compromises for no reason (lower powered dGPU, 512GB SSD rather than 1TB, etc etc).
 
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