Same problem I guess. Unsold X670E/X670 mobos will suffer depreciation as soon as they start flaunting their new stuff.Im kind of surprised we haven't seen more from the motherboard manufacturers about the impending x870 board releases.
That wouldn't surprise me actuallyAre they still messing with BIOS stuff and don't 100% know where it's gonna land... ?
The two months until release would indicate that yes, but frankly that's weird. It's not like they didn't have tons of AM5 boards out for years.Are they still messing with BIOS stuff and don't 100% know where it's gonna land... ?
Yeah we were so busy with the weirdness for Granite Ridge that we didn't talk about it at all: Strix is promising 25-50% uplift over PHX for games, which puts it squarely where I wanted it, at 1080p medium gfx for all games. That's a huge win, and the amount of Strix laptops is immensely higher than anything we've seen before. The wins are very very real there, throughout all the solid Barcelo/Rembrandt/Phoenix years, we never had even close to that amount of laptops.Maybe AMD themselves don't fully know how DT Zen5 is gonna play out. Like, they need the laptop chips out the door for BtS and AI, and at lower TDP it works pretty darn nicely.
Maybe everyone's too busy reporting on Intel adding CAMM2 and a new socket. To be honest that's way more hype for mobos than Zen 5 on the same mobos.Im kind of surprised we haven't seen more from the motherboard manufacturers about the impending x870 board releases.
Reporting on is different than no official press releases. I mean they showed boards, why not a presser about them?Maybe everyone's too busy reporting on Intel adding CAMM2 and a new socket. To be honest that's way more hype for mobos than Zen 5 on the same mobos.
Maybe something happened inside AMD HQ? A COVID outbreak that was kept under wraps? Something that massively affected their productivity for quite a few days and when they returned, they were not the same before?One thing is clear this was an odd zen launch. Zen 3 and 4 were better presented and a lot more information was given to the press.
Since before the pres I was saying it was too much to do. And the pres was bad, by my standards. Lisa just glossed over everything without having the time to insist on the good points.One thing is clear this was an odd zen launch. Zen 3 and 4 were better presented and a lot more information was given to the press.
It does raise an interesting question for the future, about Z5 LP core. If SRF can take a lot of the market due to better perf/W options even after Turin is out (144 cores good cores at lower power is already going to satisfy a lot of customers), then I wonder if AMD won't be tempted to try a ridiculous 512 LP cores thing by Zen 6. Just a random thought, but SRF is an interesting experiment and might succeed despite Turin having the perf/W victory pretty soon.
Kinda.Im kind of surprised we haven't seen more from the motherboard manufacturers about the impending x870 board releases.
That’s because Strix Point is a winner! Honestly, I am waiting for Strix Halo, but the wait is hard! 🤣That wouldn't surprise me actually
It's like every single person there was hyperfocused on Strix laptops.
You can thank “AI” for that.One thing is clear this was an odd zen launch. Zen 3 and 4 were better presented and a lot more information was given to the press.
I am pretty sure the memory controller just needs to be able to support LPDDR5. I could be wrong, however.Reporting on is different than no official press releases. I mean they showed boards, why not a presser about them?
Question - Is camm2/lpcamm2 a different controller need or is is just different end packaging/mounting?
So it possible we may get AM5 mobos with camm2/lpcamm2 support?
Have you done the calculation or is it your gut feeling?
Maybe AMD themselves don't fully know how DT Zen5 is gonna play out. Like, they need the laptop chips out the door for BtS and AI, and at lower TDP it works pretty darn nicely. But are they still messing with desktop Zen5? AMD have never been amazeballs with their marketing, but we've never been this in the dark after a major presentation before. Are they still messing with BIOS stuff and don't 100% know where it's gonna land... ?
We already have, read the thread.Can someone elaborate why some here think, that the benches are mysterious?! To me it sounds like massive copium. AMD presented 16% IPC increase so that's that. Do you really think they play 4d chess and suddenly present 25% in july or what?! Sounds silly to me.
Seems like its because of:Can someone elaborate why some here think, that the benches are mysterious?! To me it sounds like massive copium. AMD presented 16% IPC increase so that's that. Do you really think they play 4d chess and suddenly present 25% in july or what?! Sounds silly to me.
Thank you.Seems like its because of:
1. The choice of benchmarks (They could have gotten a better number with different benchmarks)
2. Errors/mis-matches in the slides.
3. Divergence from benchmarks that they previously used.
Zen 3 was also odd. But Zen 4 was even. *ducks*One thing is clear this was an odd zen launch. Zen 3 and 4 were better presented and a lot more information was given to the press.
If that is the reason, it would be surprisingly and refreshingly honest (ish) marketing. =)Eh. If past history is anything to go by that 16% geomean is just a set of results that fit the Specint NT IPC uplift.
Sure AMD could claim a bigger number with a different suite but then it would not reconcile to spec nt IPC uplift.
Of course just because that is how they did it for prior launches does not compell them to stick to that for future launches and it could just have been a happy coincidence.
Why 2 months, we can validate AMDs claim with Strix Point next month.We already have, read the thread.
You're free to believe in your copium assessment, ultimately nobody knows until 3rd party benches in a whole 2 months.
Ah good! But I thought GNR itself is for end of July?Why 2 months, we can validate AMDs claim with Strix Point next month.
It is. But Strix should be earlier I think. I don’t know the dates, why the heck is AMD so secretive?Ah good! But I thought GNR itself is for end of July?
It exists in all the other forums, TechPowerUP and Tomshardware. Anandtech forums are the best.Here we see an average r/ayymd user comments.