Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Mahboi

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I'm literally the only one telling people to cool down and stop running at geekbench leaks that have been disproven every day since a month.
You all chill and wait for the reviews instead of picking up some Twitter post and immediately claiming everything in a range of 7-40% improvement.

Or actually, if you wanna run at every Geekbench leak, enjoy yourselves. Just stop acting like whatever leak you pulled is a proof of anything. Really that's the only problem that led us here in the first place.
 
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branch_suggestion

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You know, I'm gonna do one more funny and use the funky compare button between silent profile Strix1 and a rando silent profile HPT1 in G14 (which is like one of the better implementations CPU-wise). just for kicks.
Mind that ASUS keeps silent profile relatively consistent between AMD parts and it's like 25W sPPT with 15W sustain.
You get similar results vs a Turbo 8945HS.
Zen4 does not like JITspam when power is constrained.
 

itsmydamnation

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You get similar results vs a Turbo 8945HS.
Zen4 does not like JITspam when power is constrained.
That doesn't make much sense if your power and thus clock constrained you should have the same or better IPC as your clock to memory latency ratio improves. JIT tends to have very big memory footprint and thus you would expect a higher IPC with lower clocks with everything else being equal.
 
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Abwx

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branch_suggestion

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Okay, 2 more comparisons.
Turbo Hawk vs Rembrandt, Zen4's gimmick is Object Detection thanks to AVX-512.
And now Rembrandt vs Silent Hawk, showing once again how badly HTML5 Browser tanks at that power setting. I checked multiple Silent samples and it is consistent behaviour.
So for Strix in that power setting to be twice as fast, going from the worst bench by far to the best relative to full power Zen4 is very interesting.*
*(please be legit istg)
 
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Jayzen

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It's funny how adroc carried the meme of Overkill Zen 5 for months
Then AMD announces 16%
He says "I was wrong, MLID was right"
And somehow 4 days later you are already restarting the cycle and swallowing everything he pulls out.
Some people just never learn. They can't be taught.
 

Jayzen

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Member callouts are not permitted. They are considered personal attacks. Shout outs are fine as that is a positive thing.
I'm actually going to perform a simple art: not care about your very, very devalued words and wait for reviews. You've spent MONTHS yapping and acting like the entire world was a bunch of idiots that exist solely for you to laugh at their faces because only you knew the truth of things.
Only to somehow end up with MLID, MLID being more accurate than you.
I don't know or care how you ended up with this result, but months of pure arrogance only to make MLID look like he has less ego and more leaker credibility than you is a sort of Gold Cup at a certain Olympics.
And I'm being tame because of forum rules.

Why don't you just be quiet for a few weeks because Lord knows your every word is just sinking you deeper in ridicule right now.
For others "wait for reviews" is wisdom, for you, it's about self-respect. If I'd been half as arrogant and half as wrong as you, I'd make a public apology over it and make myself scarce.
The amount of egg Adroc has on his face from this whole ordeal is probably enough to feed an entire family of people from a show on TLC.
 
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itsmydamnation

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The amount of egg Adroc has on his face from this whole ordeal is probably enough to feed an entire family of people from a show on TLC.
So do you have spec int 1t results to share with us. The amount of people claiming victory for something we still don't know is just people doing the exact same thing in the opposite direction.....

Anyway it's Better then being boring and small....

#wraeclast
 

Markfw

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Guys... Its real simple. Until the reviews are in, there should be NO crap given to ANY leaker. When they show up, then you can give them criticism.

Why is this do hard ? are you all that impatient ? Then maybe we should give YOU some crap.

In the meantime, try some "speculation", the title of this thread.
 
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