Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

Page 540 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Fjodor2001

Diamond Member
Feb 6, 2010
3,990
440
126

CouncilorIrissa

Senior member
Jul 28, 2023
563
2,230
96
Finally the leaks we’ve been waiting for ages for start coming. Here’s another one:

AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 APU ES Benchmarks Leak: Up To 25% Faster Multi & 17% Faster Single-Thread Performance In CPU-Z​




View attachment 100821
View attachment 100822
View attachment 100823
It was discussed 4 pages ago. The most annoying part is that we don't know what clocks the ST test was run at.
 

Kepler_L2

Senior member
Sep 6, 2020
568
2,352
136

tsamolotoff

Senior member
May 19, 2019
211
427
136
4.43 if you look at the video, however the author looks away in the middle of the ST test, so we only get to see clocks at the end of the test.
It does not change (the clock), also it's the clock of the first core (and maybe 2nd or 3rd), CPU-z ignores CPPC and prevents you from changing that (unless you use special tools like BenchMate etc and launch it with predefined affinity)
 
Jul 27, 2020
20,481
14,157
146
it would be in tasks that you previously performed poorly in.
True. But not even clear what useful task CPU-Z is performing that normal users do. I just use it to see if overclocking the CPU is netting me any gains. It's a quick benchmark to ascertain that. I'm sure AMD doesn't give an ass whether they move the needle in CPU-Z.
 

inf64

Diamond Member
Mar 11, 2011
3,872
4,593
136
True. But not even clear what useful task CPU-Z is performing that normal users do. I just use it to see if overclocking the CPU is netting me any gains. It's a quick benchmark to ascertain that. I'm sure AMD doesn't give an ass whether they move the needle in CPU-Z.
Well Zen 4 achieved an "amazing" 1% improvement in CPUz 1T so the results for Zen 5 are astonishingly good, looking from Zen 4 perspective.
 

Abwx

Lifer
Apr 2, 2011
11,593
4,413
136
Don't get this talking point. At a thousand foot level, if you would expect to find large gains anywhere after making several major architectural changes, it would be in tasks that you previously performed poorly in.

You mean in tasks where you previously performed so well that CPU Z editor "updated" the bench to get Intel at the first place again under the pretense that Zen 1 was taking advantage of an alleged bug to score better..?..

Same with WebXprt wich is an Intel bench now edited by the infamous Principle Technologies, AMD was ahead by 10% in WebXprt 3, then come Webxprt 4 that nullified the advantage and put Intel on par.

We can also add the transition from CB R15 to R20/R23, at this rate while AMD is improving real IPC Intel get the benches to be "improved" on their behalf.
 
Last edited:

poke01

Platinum Member
Mar 8, 2022
2,377
3,142
106
Sandbagged Zen 4 prior to release:

View attachment 100805

View attachment 100807


Real Zen 4 (released):

View attachment 100806

+14% headroom in clock speed (5Ghz+ versus 5.7Ghz on launch)

~8% IPC (early reveal) vs 13% on launch.

>15% ST uplift turned out to be ~29% ST uplift.

You're welcome.
The launch for Zen 5 is next month. Strix Point is launching next month. This is quite a different launch to Zen 4.

The clocks are set in place. They didn’t reveal SKUs or definite clocks last time at the Zen 4 computex.
 
Reactions: invisible_city
Jun 4, 2024
116
146
71
The launch for Zen 5 is next month. Strix Point is launching next month. This is quite a different launch to Zen 4.

The clocks are set in place. They didn’t reveal SKUs or definite clocks last at the Zen 4 computex.
Hope everlasting. We’re going to be hearing about secret sauce and how Zen 5 is really 50%+ because on some specific AVX512 workload it over delivers, for months to years. We’ll be hearing about sandbagging in nursing homes worldwide in 50 years. “Back in my day, AMD sandbagged so hard….it was glorious”. Ok grandpa.
 
Reactions: Henry swagger

poke01

Platinum Member
Mar 8, 2022
2,377
3,142
106
if anyone is truly sandbagging it would be Intel this time. Their CPUs don’t launch till September with Lunar and October/November for Arrow. So it’s “okay” for Intel to use the margin of error.

I do think Zen 5 will be great architecture relative to Zen 4 but it’s not some mythical core that will obliterate every other CPU microarchitecture for the next couple of years as some leakers touted it be. In that regard they already got proven wrong.

I’m sure we will see some insane gains in AVX-512 but the actual core performance will have to revealed by SPEC.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |