When 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12 doesn't make sense.

darkswordsman17 · Jun 7, 2024

So, in all the constant fighting about daylight savings and other organized time discussions, I feel like there's a bigger issue that gets ignored and affects every single day. It goes, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 all AM or PM, then suddenly 12 that is the inverse? And the fix would have been simple, just push it so that 12 would be how we currently use 11, with 1 being the turnover, indicating the 1st hour of the AM or PM.

At work, some of the middle management that was hired in the last couple of years were former military so they tried to move things to being military timed, which then just led to having to constantly go "that's 5pm" because, get this, civilian world doesn't operate on military mindset, and most people don't find military time intuitive because of it. Still, it does at least make sense and it could stay as is for those that want to use it. I have no problem with it.

While we're at it, there should be 13 equal months of 28 days + a single "New Year Day". It just makes sense. So, where should the extra month go, and what should it be called?

Charmonium · Jun 7, 2024

you can't fight BIG TIME.

Sooner or later, it's gonna get ya.

igor_kavinski · Jun 7, 2024

I prefer the military time. Plus, there's a freaky numerology connection between the military time and standard time digits.

1 pm and 13:00 << Don't have real life data to comment on this connection.

2 pm and 14:00 << (1+4)=5. 2 and 5 are good buddies in life and may even get married if opposite genders.

3 pm and 15:00 << (1+5)=6. 3 and 6 are great buddies in life. Seen a lot of trust between these two.

4 pm and 16:00 << (1+6)=7. Don't have real life data to comment on this connection.

5 pm and 17:00 << (1+7)=8. 5 and 8 are bosom buddies in life. I've seen these two being partners in crime.

6 pm and 18:00 << (1+8)=9. I'm 9 and 6 is kind to me. I like 6 being kind to me.

7 pm and 19:00 << (1+9)=10=(1+0)=1. Don't have real life data to comment on this connection.

8 pm and 20:00 << (2+0)=2. Don't have real life data to comment on this connection.

9 pm and 21:00 << (2+1)=3. OK relationship between 9 and 3. Sometimes they quarrel. Sometimes they enjoy each other's company. But in general, 3 is selfish.

10 pm and 22:00 << (2+2)=4. Same as 1 pm and 13:00. Don't have real life data to comment on this connection.

11 pm and 23:00 << (2+3)=5. Same as 2pm and 14:00 above.

biostud · Jun 7, 2024

darkswordsman17 said:
So, in all the constant fighting about daylight savings and other organized time discussions, I feel like there's a bigger issue that gets ignored and affects every single day. It goes, 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11 all AM or PM, then suddenly 12 that is the inverse? And the fix would have been simple, just push it so that 12 would be how we currently use 11, with 1 being the turnover, indicating the 1st hour of the AM or PM.

At work, some of the middle management that was hired in the last couple of years were former military so they tried to move things to being military timed, which then just led to having to constantly go "that's 5pm" because, get this, civilian world doesn't operate on military mindset, and most people don't find military time intuitive because of it. Still, it does at least make sense and it could stay as is for those that want to use it. I have no problem with it, but

While we're at it, there should be 13 equal months of 28 days + a single "New Year Day". It just makes sense. So, where should the extra month go, and what should it be called?

It goes 00:00-23:59 and like any civilized country, we use metric

igor_kavinski · Jun 7, 2024

23:59:59.999 adds up to 60 which is the number of minutes in an hour and the number of seconds in a minute. Hence proven this is the correct way to reference time

BoomerD · Jun 7, 2024

biostud said:
It goes 00:00-23:59 and like any civilized country, we use metric

At this exact moment, it's 0015 hours here on the left coast.

igor_kavinski · Jun 7, 2024

BoomerD said:
At this exact moment, it's 0015 hours here on the left coast.

Oh wow. Exactly 11 hours behind me.

BoomerD · Jun 7, 2024

igor_kavinski said:
Oh wow. Exactly 11 hours behind me.

You livin in the future and shit...

sdifox · Jun 7, 2024

Did Future distribute a Gizmo pill through the intertubes?

dullard · Jun 7, 2024

biostud said:
It goes 00:00-23:59 and like any civilized country, we use metric

You use metric time? 10 hours / day, 10 minutes / hour, 10 seconds / minute? Or is that 1000 hours / day, 1000 minutes / hour, and 1000 seconds / minute? I always get confused on metric time.

dullard · Jun 7, 2024

darkswordsman17 said:
While we're at it, there should be 13 equal months of 28 days + a single "New Year Day". It just makes sense. So, where should the extra month go, and what should it be called?

I like where you are going there, but I think we can improve it more. Lets just ditch Monday, since no one really likes Monday. Go to 6 day weeks: 4 workdays and 2 weekend days.

Then have 5 weeks/month (30 days) each and every month. That gives us 12 months of 30 days each. That way a month's length is about the same as it has been. None of those rapid-feeling 28 days months (think about monthly bills, I'd rather get 2 extra days between bills than with your plan). Also, 30 day months is as close as we can get to lunar months (29.53 days). No new month name to worry about. And a leap week of 5 to 6 days at the end when everyone just relaxes around the holidays.

Tuesday, would be the 1st of every month. No more calendars needed as all months start on Tuesday the 1st and end on Sunday* the 30th.

* For the Europeans that think weeks should start on Sunday, why do we call Saturday and Sunday a week END?

nakedfrog · Jun 7, 2024

Given that time is an illusion, I think this is a tempest in a teakettle.

biostud · Jun 7, 2024

dullard said:
You use metric time? 10 hours / day, 10 minutes / hour, 10 seconds / minute? Or is that 1000 hours / day, 1000 minutes / hour, and 1000 seconds / minute? I always get confused on metric time.

I measure everything in milliseconds

IronWing · Jun 7, 2024

biostud said:
I measure everything in milliseconds

I ordered a rain gauge off Amazon. It measures in 1/16ths inches. Not even Americans measure rain in 1/16ths.

Lost_in_the_HTTP · Jun 8, 2024

Now do months. Lets make them all 30 days and be done with it.

Ken g6 · Jun 9, 2024

Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Now do months. Lets make them all 30 days and be done with it.

If there were 13 months of 28 days, every month would be exactly 4 weeks and the calendar would be off by only one or two days per year. Make that (or those two) extra holidays and every month could start on a Sunday.

mindless1 · Jun 9, 2024

Binary is easier. It's either today (1), or it isn't (0).

igor_kavinski · Jun 9, 2024

mindless1 said:
Binary is easier. It's either today (1), or it isn't (0).

Working in offices would be so much fun then.

When was this PPT created?

Not today!

Will our company post better profits this quarter?

Don't have the answer to that today! We find out the day the profits are calculated.

Were you hit on the head as a child?

I'm not a child TODAY!

bba-tcg · Jun 9, 2024

Ken g6 said:
If there were 13 months of 28 days, every month would be exactly 4 weeks and the calendar would be off by only one or two days per year. Make that (or those two) extra holidays and every month could start on a Sunday.

But then you'd have a Friday the 13th every month.

bba-tcg · Jun 9, 2024

mindless1 said:
Binary is easier. It's either today (1), or it isn't (0).

Isn't it always today, right now?

mindless1 · Jun 9, 2024

sdifox · Jun 9, 2024

IronWing said:
I ordered a rain gauge off Amazon. It measures in 1/16ths inches. Not even Americans measure rain in 1/16ths.

So you are insinuating Liberia and Myanmar measure rain in 1/16"? Other than the Tree Imperial Losers, there is no other market for it.

mindless1 · Jun 9, 2024

IronWing said:
I ordered a rain gauge off Amazon. It measures in 1/16ths inches. Not even Americans measure rain in 1/16ths.

Most gauges I see measure by 1/8th inch but the only reason no finer divisions than that, is because they'd be too close together (or too thin) to read from a distance. That's not entirely true, I mean you can taper down the base of a gauge so spread out the measurement marks but most aren't that elaborate.

I got a rain gauge on Amazon that makes even less sense, measures 1/10ths of an inch, but I liked the design that can be read 20' away.

Amazon.com

IronWing · Jun 9, 2024

mindless1 said:
Most gauges I see measure by 1/8th inch but the only reason no finer divisions than that, is because they'd be too close together (or too thin) to read from a distance. That's not entirely true, I mean you can taper down the base of a gauge so spread out the measurement marks but most aren't that elaborate.

I got a rain gauge on Amazon that makes even less sense, measures 1/10ths of an inch, but I liked the design that can be read 20' away.

Amazon.com

1/10ths and 1/100ths are the standard way of measuring rainfall.

The Tru-Chek wedge is the gold standard for non weighing bucket rain gauges but they cost $30.

Tru-Chek® Direct-Reading Rain Gauge

One side is graduated from 0.01” to 6” while the other side ranges from 0.1 mm to 150 mm. This 13” long gauge is constructed of heavy, weather-resistant plastic with permanently marked graduations.

www.forestry-suppliers.com

BoomerD · Jun 9, 2024

mindless1 said:
Binary is easier. It's either Saturday (1), or it's Saturday (0).

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