4 hostages rescued in Gaza in planned operation

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Moonbeam

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Why is it that Americans who have traveled a long long journey from the days of slavery justified by white supremacy and N word applied inferiority, went through a civil war to undo the original injustice, and is to this day still dealing with the obvious inequalities yet to be dealt with including all the bitterness retained in the Black community, but can't figure out that it's the same with Palistinians. When you put people down and treat them like they were animals they will oblige you and become what you fear. Then once they respond with the rage and anger you caused them to feel you say to yourself, geez what a bunch of animals and continue to justify your treatment of them as such. And when this is pointed out to those so guilty, they cry out with victim mentality. "look at what those animals did and how much I hurt" when all that happened is that you created your own image in the mirror.

Anybody who saw Forbidden Planet should know this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet

It's been around since 1956 and Freud a lot longer.

Of course mystical traditions have known this for thousands of years for example: https://www.almirajsuficentre.org.au/qamus/app/single/1098
 
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Leeea

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Yet Israel continued to send Hamas money and did nothing to change the situation.
If Hamas is an Israelie ( specifically, a Netanyahu, it was his idea ) proxy . . .

You would expect that a nation of people who have been persecuted to have compassion and value for all human life. Instead they dropped 1000's of mk84 which is fucking horrific.

This one choice the Israeli military made over and over and over again shows that they are flat out war criminals.

I dare you to justify the use of that weapon in this environment.

They have the same regards for human life as Russians , this is demonstrated by there actions. Never again , hey?
and Israel/Netanyahu is happily turning turning Palestine into craters.

As you say, there is no justification. A better question is how?





Netanyahu financed Hamas to undermine the Palestinian authority and Palestinian legitimacy on the world stage. And his investment has paid off many times over.


US admin, government after government would sit down and force Israel to have peace talks with the PLA. The PLA had legitimacy. Hamas never will.



Why would anyone here think that Hamas is a friend to Palestine? Hamas is the worse thing that ever happened to Palestine. That is why Netanyahu paid for it.





I imagine Mohammed Deif and Netanyahu will retire to the same private Island and their children will play together.
 
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Moonbeam

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If Hamas is an Israelie ( specifically, a Netanyahu, it was his idea ) proxy . . .


and Israel/Netanyahu is happily turning turning Palestine into craters.

As you say, there is no justification. A better question is how?





Netanyahu financed Hamas to undermine the Palestinian authority and Palestinian legitimacy on the world stage. And his investment has paid off many times over.


US admin, government after government would sit down and force Israel to have peace talks with the PLA. The PLA had legitimacy. Hamas never will.



Why would anyone here think that Hamas is a friend to Palestine? Hamas is the worse thing that ever happened to Palestine. That is why Netanyahu paid for it.





I imagine Mohammed Deif and Netanyahu will retire to the same private Island and their children will play together.
That's a nice how. So how was Netanyahu able to do this? Didn't he have a government and winning elections behind him?
 

GodisanAtheist

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Israel should have genocided the Palestinians 80 years ago.

How many of us would be cool with giving our land back to the tribes who had it before we rolled in and killed them all?

The only difference between Pals and Natives of all varieties is the amount of time that has passed between their respective genocides and the present.
 

Moonbeam

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Israel should have genocided the Palestinians 80 years ago.

How many of us would be cool with giving our land back to the tribes who had it before we rolled in and killed them all?

The only difference between Pals and Natives of all varieties is the amount of time that has passed between their respective genocides and the present.
Wow, that's some logic there? I'm ready to give my land back but the tribes who had it before me are all dead. I anticipate some difficulties ahead.

And remember those were tribes of savages, right, and not real people and they are all dead. For all I know the Palestinians might be live real people.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Wow, that's some logic there? I'm ready to give my land back but the tribes who had it before me are all dead. I anticipate some difficulties ahead.

And remember those were tribes of savages, right, and not real people and they are all dead. For all I know the Palestinians might be live real people.

-Right, so all Palestinians dead, no one to give the land back to right?

All get to sleep easy and watch the Sunday morning cartoons uninterrupted by "breaking news"
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The dying will not stop until they are all free or dead. God help everyone if Hamas goes with the dead option.
Counterpoint: without hostages, Israel won't have any reason to go soft with Palestinians.
Hamas has not won an election in Gaza in the majority of Gaza civilian's populations living memory.

Hamas is a police state, nothing more. A tyrannical overlord, financed by outside interests who do not have the Palestinian people's welfare as a priority, or even a secondary consideration.
Hamas is a result of a power vacuum, very likely created as a direct result of Israel's actions. It's a symptom of a problem, which not only hasn't been resolved, but has only gotten worse.
 

Moonbeam

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-Right, so all Palestinians dead, no one to give the land back to right?

All get to sleep easy and watch the Sunday morning cartoons uninterrupted by "breaking news"
Right, except for one thing. Liberals in the last 200 years have fucked that notion up. Somewhere along the way they decided that what used to be called savages were actually real people and deserve to be treated as such not to mention the fact that the past is immutable but the future is still to happen and subject to new understandings as if in an old prayer, Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. All aboard the Glory Train!
 

amenx

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The person holding Noa Argamani hostage in his home was an Al Jazeera “journalist” who was ALSO Hamas’ Ministry of Labor spokesperson

His father (also in the house) is a doctor

And all of this was in a “refugee camp”


Turned out to be bullshit. I immediately considered it suspect when no major news outlet carried it other than a few over-enthusiastic Israeli outlets. AlJazeera denied it and threatened to sue anyone spreading this disinfo.

 
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You would expect that a nation of people who have been persecuted to have compassion and value for all human life. Instead they dropped 1000's of mk84 which is fucking horrific.

This one choice the Israeli military made over and over and over again shows that they are flat out war criminals.

I dare you to justify the use of that weapon in this environment.

They have the same regards for human life as Russians , this is demonstrated by there actions. Never again , hey?
Well, depending on who you ask, "never again" may not mean "never a genocide again", but rather "never again to us" (the Jewish community).
 
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KMFJD

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Isn't this a major level war crime?

Israeli special forces dressed as Palestinian refugees for hostage rescue: Sources

ABC News|8 hours ago
They were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live. Israeli special forces were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live when they entered the buildings where hostages were being held during the Israeli rescue ...
it's only a war crime when someone we don't like does it, otherwise it's a resounding success

/not even the first time they did this, few months ago
//they dressed as civilians, entered a West Bank hospital and killed 3
/// https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/midd...er-raid-jenin-west-bank-hamas-intl/index.html


////perfidy - In the context of war, perfidy is a form of deception in which one side promises to act in good faith with the intention of breaking that promise once the unsuspecting enemy is exposed. Perfidy constitutes a breach of the laws of war and so is a war crime, as it degrades the protections and mutual restraints developed in the interest of all parties, combatants and civilians.
 
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Leeea

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Isn't this a major level war crime?

Israeli special forces dressed as Palestinian refugees for hostage rescue: Sources

ABC News|8 hours ago
They were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live. Israeli special forces were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live when they entered the buildings where hostages were being held during the Israeli rescue ...

Unfortunately no.

I originally gave one explanation, it was incorrect.

It is more simple then that.


Hamas is not recognized as a state under the Geneva convention. They are reclassified as armed civilians violating domestic law. They have no protections and it is not possible to commit war crimes against them. There is no war being fought here.


Yes, that is screwed up. But Israel is basically immune to prosecution for what we would think of as traditional war crimes.


Just because someone says it is legal for a person to murder someone does not mean it is moral, ethical, right, or justified. A monster is still a monster. It just means they are going to get away with it.


The ICC is a better place to go. The International Criminal Court however does not get involved in the laws of armed conflict like this. Nor does Israel recognize ICC jurisdiction.
 
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Aharami

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Isn't this a major level war crime?

Israeli special forces dressed as Palestinian refugees for hostage rescue: Sources

ABC News|8 hours ago
They were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live. Israeli special forces were disguised as Palestinian refugees looking for a place to live when they entered the buildings where hostages were being held during the Israeli rescue ...
probably going to be the plot of the new season of Fauda
 

Xcobra

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Unfortunately no.

I originally gave one explanation, it was incorrect.

It is more simple then that.


Hamas is not recognized as a state under the Geneva convention. They are reclassified as armed civilians violating domestic law. They have no protections and it is not possible to commit war crimes against them. There is no war being fought here.


Yes, that is screwed up. But Israel is basically immune to prosecution for what we would think of as traditional war crimes.


Just because someone says it is legal for a person to murder someone does not mean it is moral, ethical, right, or justified. A monster is still a monster. It just means they are going to get away with it.


The ICC is a better place to go. The International Criminal Court however does not get involved in the laws of armed conflict like this. Nor does Israel recognize ICC jurisdiction.
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