Yeah, that is very obvious.
Not sure what these things have to do with each other. You can have great end-user experience and high software quality in a closed ecosystem and you can have total crap in an open ecosystem. Besides, which “open” ecosystem are you talking about? Most of the stuff out there is controlled by a handful of big corporations.
If people keep bringing up Apple M? CPU performance, it means nothing to us if the stuff we want to run is in M$ / Linux / x86 land?
M? is moot in DIY PC land because it is proprietary.
God tier hardware means nothing if it cannot run the software an end user wants to run.
8000 mt/s for both 16gbit a-die and 24 gbit m-die. The thing is that the current IO die (or its firmware / w.e.) does not support mem multipliers above 80x, so even if your board and CPU can in theory do higher speeds, you'd not be able to do that unless you do bclk OC (which stops at 102.5-102.9 mhz if you own an nvidia gpu)What is the highest speed listed on the specs page for that mobo?
8000 mt/s for both 16gbit a-die and 24 gbit m-die
x86 itself is proprietary. I don’t see Intel open sourcing the ISA when they seem to open source everything else they do.M? is moot in DIY PC land because it is proprietary.
depends on what software. The only thing a Mac can’t is game due to lack of game support. That’s the only major thing.God tier hardware means nothing if it cannot run the software an end user wants to run.
This isn’t a DIY PC thread but a Zen 5 speculation thread. AMD themselves also compare with M chips. As far I’m aware, that’s exactly what they did with Strix Point and not for NPU BS but for actual CPU performance.it means nothing to us if the stuff we want to run is in M$ / Linux / x86 land?
At this point they don't actually have the legal power to open source the entire ISA as the foundation of x64 is AMD64, and that will perpetually mean that both Intel and AMD are co owners of the ISA.x86 itself is proprietary. I don’t see Intel open sourcing the ISA when they seem to open source everything else they do.
I suggest rereading what I've wrote - unless IO die or something that controls its registers has changed, even if your board can support 10000 mt/s, you'd still be stuck at 8000 mt/s or its whereabouts because the CPU cannot clock memory above 8000 mt/s without FSB overclock (which causes various problems with GPUs and can literally kill SSDs / HDDs)There's a good chance the new mobos may raise it to 8800 MT/s to improve their JEDEC DDR5 standard compliance.
If lots of domain specific business software isn't a major thing, then yes.The only thing a Mac can’t is game due to lack of game support. That’s the only major thing.
Last time I checked this was a completely reverse-engineered experimental effort.Also you can run Linux bare metal on M chips.
There are, small improvements (respin??). I believe AMD said 'better' support for high speeds. I take that to mean better compatibility with high speed DRAM modules. We will see.No? Who told you that? If IO die hasn't changed, you won't see anything better than 8000 mt/s memory and 2200 ish IF (and i'm already using 7800 / 2166 on a 2dpc board)
I'd be shocked. AMD would lose out on a 'refresh' opportunity to rekindle press and review pieces on Zen5 a bit further down the line.I think it's release end of the year
Rumor suggests AMD Ryzen 9000X3D is launching sooner than expected - VideoCardz.com
Club386: AMD Ryzen 9000X3D in September It is reported by Club386 that Ryzen 9000X3D series is said to be launching much sooner than everyone expected. AMD announced the launch of its Ryzen 9000 series for July, which was generally interpreted that the X3D variants would follow a quicker release...videocardz.com
I think the blunder they made is not releasing 7745HX3D. That could've really given 13980HX/14900HX laptops a run for their money. 7945HX3D is too high end to be affordable.why amd keep making blunders??
It may be forced by unexpected competitiveness from Intel and Qualcomm. X3D happens to be very power efficient.I'd be shocked. AMD would lose out on a 'refresh' opportunity to rekindle press and review pieces on Zen5 a bit further down the line.
In a very specific set of applications. Meanwhile, it also enhances throughput a lot in a very specific set of HPC server niche applications. Now the (not so hard) question is into which segment(s) to ship those V-cache equipped dies, and Make Money Fast doing so.X3D happens to be very power efficient.
Arrow Lake would have to be very special. Qualcomm?? Too small in PC space to matter right now.It may be forced by unexpected competitiveness from Intel and Qualcomm. X3D happens to be very power efficient.
Strange. I didn't hear any 9000X3D being under mass production. Let's see what will happen. 9000 entered mass production almost half a year earlier than computex show.I think it's release end of the year
Rumor suggests AMD Ryzen 9000X3D is launching sooner than expected - VideoCardz.com
Club386: AMD Ryzen 9000X3D in September It is reported by Club386 that Ryzen 9000X3D series is said to be launching much sooner than everyone expected. AMD announced the launch of its Ryzen 9000 series for July, which was generally interpreted that the X3D variants would follow a quicker release...videocardz.com
Arrow Lake would have to be very special. Qualcomm?? Too small in PC space to matter right now.
Strange. I didn't hear any 9000X3D being under mass production. Let's see what will happen. 9000 entered mass production almost half a year earlier than computex show.
What I mean is that Qualcomm doesn't ship enough units to really matter. Same with Mac laptops (well, they matter a bit). It's really Intel vs AMD for corp market and enthusiast (again small) market.There s no real competition technically speaking for Strix Point 12C, assuming the slide displayed at Computex was at 54W TDP and using Cinebench as a metric :
At 28W it would be on par with the Elite X that use more power for this score.
At 15-17W it would be on par with the M3 that get higher than this power
for this score.
As for Intel it wouldn't even be worth mentioning since at 35W it would be
on par with a 185H at 120W.
Microsoft is treating them right now like QC is the new gf half Microsoft's age.Qualcomm?? Too small in PC space to matter right now.
The OEM has to choose the chips, you know. You say restricted, as if it's nefarious or idiocy. OEMs have to be up for buying and building thembig if true
sadly the mobile version 7945HX3D is still restricted to a single outdated laptop model (asus strix 17)
they should really ship 9955HX3D to many more oems
why amd keep making blunders??
Zen 4 V-cache is 5 months later than Zen 4 original. If there should have been any 'response' to Intel then Zen4 V-cache should be 2022 thing.Isn't 9000X3D (announcement?) going to be the response to Intel if they take over "fastest gaming CPU" ?
I mean, we know it is going to be released anyway...