TX gov Abbott to pardon man who killed BLM protester in 2020

zinfamous · May 21, 2024

ch33zw1z said:
IMO, he's actually emotionally attached to guns. He fears what others have is more potent than his, he's said it himself. He chooses not to leave the area he's in so as to relocate to a more welcoming area to surrogate penis attachments and mods...instead choosing to envy their hardware from a liberal high horse.

I think moonie is always posting in (as a) character. He's just gotten really good at it and it's become more confusing to more people now. I used to find his posts quite entertaining and very-well crafted...now they just feel tedious, which to me is a part of also being confused with his messaging over the last couple of years.

I gravitate back and forth with where he's going. Recall that during the 2016s (that was a year that was like, 4 years long), he pretty much posted explicitly as a Trump-humper, completely against his own history here and without breaking character, until the Trump years rolled out and he went back to old moonie. I think it's just having a bit of fun.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

ch33zw1z said:
The one where you desire what conservatives have in more friendly states because you become what you fear. The rest of your post is irrelevant and reads as your rationalization of your emotional attachment.

Edit: and as for blaming people who don’t like guns FOR gun violence is quite the “look what you made me do” mindset. Certainly something an enlightened individual should strive for (obligatory /s )

What I see is motivated blindness. It isn’t me that is blaming you for gun violence. I am saying that an irrational anti gun attitude has created a backlash along large numbers of gun owners to resist any gun control legislation because they can see where you really want go go with it, take from then the inborn right of self defense. I don’t blame you for this. I see you as simply blind to that as the actual reality because of personal cowardliness.

It is you, in my opinion, that turns a simple psychological explanation for an extant phenomenon, cause and effect, into a feeling of guilt and a desperate need to deny it because it is a projection onto me of your own self hatred.

You can’t help but hide from the truth that you can’t see that the real root of gun violence is also within you. We live in a culture that creates enormous repressed self hate that explodes into mass killings a s suicide in various places at the drop of a hat.

ch33zw1z · May 21, 2024

Moonbeam said:
What I see is motivated blindness. It isn’t me that is blaming you for gun violence. I am saying that an irrational anti gun attitude has created a backlash along large numbers of gun owners to resist any gun control legislation because they can see where you really want go go with it, take from then the inborn right of self defense. I don’t blame you for this. I see you as simply blind to that as the actual reality because of personal cowardliness.

It is you, in my opinion, that turns a simple psychological explanation for an extant phenomenon, cause and effect, into a feeling of guilt and a desperate need to deny it because it is a projection onto me of your own self hatred.

You can’t help but hide from the truth that you can’t see that the real root of gun violence is also within you. We live in a culture that creates enormous repressed self hate that explodes into mass killings a s suicide in various places at the drop of a hat.

Yes, the victims of gun violence should blame people that want less guns. The logic is flawless.

Xcobra · May 21, 2024

Moonbeam said:
What I see is motivated blindness. It isn’t me that is blaming you for gun violence. I am saying that an irrational anti gun attitude has created a backlash along large numbers of gun owners to resist any gun control legislation because they can see where you really want go go with it, take from then the inborn right of self defense. I don’t blame you for this. I see you as simply blind to that as the actual reality because of personal cowardliness.

It is you, in my opinion, that turns a simple psychological explanation for an extant phenomenon, cause and effect, into a feeling of guilt and a desperate need to deny it because it is a projection onto me of your own self hatred.

You can’t help but hide from the truth that you can’t see that the real root of gun violence is also within you. We live in a culture that creates enormous repressed self hate that explodes into mass killings a s suicide in various places at the drop of a hat.

All I read is fear. Your desire for 'pedestalizing' your self-defense comes out of pure, unadulterated and self-preserving fear. No one is after you... Or are they? 😉

ch33zw1z · May 21, 2024

Xcobra said:
All I read is fear. Your desire for 'pedestalizing' your self-defense comes out of pure, unadulterated and self-preserving fear. No one is after you... Or are they? 😉

Well if they are, then I hope they don’t have a silencer, cuz MB hasn’t got one. /sadface

Pohemi · May 21, 2024

zinfamous said:
I think moonie is always posting in (as a) character. He's just gotten really good at it and it's become more confusing to more people now. I used to find his posts quite entertaining and very-well crafted...now they just feel tedious, which to me is a part of also being confused with his messaging over the last couple of years.

It's possible, sure. If it's "in character" though, then it's a shitheaded character. He's been spewing bullshit like this for at least 15 years. He can FO with it.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

ch33zw1z said:
Yes, the victims of gun violence should blame people that want less guns. The logic is flawless.

You are imprisoned in the cage of duality having not seen that thought has created your reality. You can't escape the notion of innocence and guilt because your feelings of guilt are deeply repressed but leak out in everything that you see. There is no one you can blame for anything least of all yourself. You are running a deeply embedded program. Can you see that. When I speak to you of my thoughts I can use words and concepts that exist nowhere else but in our associations and imaginations. The common reality we share over those two things makes it possible for us to communicate, a powerful tool that makes possible the transmission of things like what is dangerous without having to learn that fact by inividual experience.

But what happens when I tell you that God is good and you are a worthless sinner unfit for life but I can lift that curse for say some donation in proportion to your crime. How is that bit of graft possible without the prior presence and inner feeling of guilt. We use blame to mold and control our children and leave those scars. We have all been through a concentration camp and could not have survived with constant awareness of that pain. But all that pain creates a price. We want to do the same to others, to make them hurt and suffer as we did.

One of the targets you chose is people who own guns. The victims of gun violence blame because they have to. They do not want to know the real cause of their pain, that they are part of the great conspiracy to deny their own violence within and blame others for it. What you are saying is that you are entitled to your own outrage, that you can point and fire it like a gun. You can't forgive. You will use force to trample on my right of self defense, someone who knows at a deeper level than you do that acting out with violence by gun or otherwise is only my own self loathing denied and directed outwardly out of vengeance. Not going to happen. I have felt the hatred for myself within me and survived. We live in a capsized boat and the only way out is to swim down in the direction of our fears.

I offer you opinions I doubt you will hear anywhere else. What you do with them is up to you.

MrSquished · May 21, 2024

Moonie is moonie. I mean why are people so in denial of what people are?

ch33zw1z · May 21, 2024

Moonbeam said:
You are imprisoned in the cage of duality having not seen that thought has created your reality. You can't escape the notion of innocence and guilt because your feelings of guilt are deeply repressed but leak out in everything that you see. There is no one you can blame for anything least of all yourself. You are running a deeply embedded program. Can you see that. When I speak to you of my thoughts I can use words and concepts that exist nowhere else but in our associations and imaginations. The common reality we share over those two things makes it possible for us to communicate, a powerful tool that makes possible the transmission of things like what is dangerous without having to learn that fact by inividual experience.

But what happens when I tell you that God is good and you are a worthless sinner unfit for life but I can lift that curse for say some donation in proportion to your crime. How is that bit of graft possible without the prior presence and inner feeling of guilt. We use blame to mold and control our children and leave those scars. We have all been through a concentration camp and could not have survived with constant awareness of that pain. But all that pain creates a price. We want to do the same to others, to make them hurt and suffer as we did.

One of the targets you chose is people who own guns. The victims of gun violence blame because they have to. They do not want to know the real cause of their pain, that they are part of the great conspiracy to deny their own violence within and blame others for it. What you are saying is that you are entitled to your own outrage, that you can point and fire it like a gun. You can't forgive. You will use force to trample on my right of self defense, someone who knows at a deeper level than you do that acting out with violence by gun or otherwise is only my own self loathing denied and directed outwardly our of vengeance. Not going to happen. I have felt the hatred for myself within me and survived. We live in a capsized boat and the only way out is to swim down in the direction of our fears.

I offer you opinions I doubt you will hear anywhere else. What you do with them is up to you.

Go ahead and blame people that want less guns for gun violence all you want. Fact is, owning a firearm makes you less safe.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

zinfamous said:
I think moonie is always posting in (as a) character. He's just gotten really good at it and it's become more confusing to more people now. I used to find his posts quite entertaining and very-well crafted...now they just feel tedious, which to me is a part of also being confused with his messaging over the last couple of years.

I gravitate back and forth with where he's going. Recall that during the 2016s (that was a year that was like, 4 years long), he pretty much posted explicitly as a Trump-humper, completely against his own history here and without breaking character, until the Trump years rolled out and he went back to old moonie. I think it's just having a bit of fun.

I think you have mischaracterized my position on Trump. At a time when everybody was screaming about how worthless Trump is and how absurd the notion was that he would be the Republican nominee I saw a dangerous monster, someone who had psychological qualities that could magnetize millions. How did I do that? It's really simple. I know that people are filled with self contempt and that they blame others for it. As a result I could see in Trump a master put down artist that could easily direct all of that hate to his advantage.

I did not support him, I warned he was immensely capable and a profoundly dangerous threat at a time with pretty much all of you were laughing at the notion he was even worthy of any attention. And nobody liked being told they were the fools they turned out to be. Far be it for any of you to admit to your naivete. No no, Moonbeam was supporting him. I am a wunderkind when I support your bias and a monster when I see a deeper perspective. It's the same thing with guns. All I do is try to say what I see out of the possibility it is true. But that's always what I see as true and never what I wish were the truth or what I think others believe it to be. My odd views came at the expense of the loss of belief in everything I held sacred. I am not really worried any more about losing anything like other people's positive opinions. I accept what is given and try to give what I can.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

Xcobra said:
All I read is fear. Your desire for 'pedestalizing' your self-defense comes out of pure, unadulterated and self-preserving fear. No one is after you... Or are they? 😉

You are entitled to that opinion. I hope you know how projection works. Fearful people see others as fearful. This, creates a paradox. Suppose you see me as fearful and it is because you are projecting your fear on me. The fact that I see that does not mean I am projecting and you might actually be afraid. We can only hope you have some skill at self examination and dealing with bitter realities within.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

ch33zw1z said:
Go ahead and blame people that want less guns for gun violence all you want. Fact is, owning a firearm makes you less safe.

You have more chance of being eaten by a shark than willing the MEGA LOTTERY. Have you ever bought a ticket? Surely you are aware that millions and millions of people ignore huge swaths of negative outcomes. For example: Do you know how to live forever? Well of course you don't, but the answer is to never do anything that makes life worth living. I like guns. I believe in the right to self defense. I like guns for their physical beauty and mechanical genius. I just don't bother with shooting them because of the effort that takes to achieve. I have only one gun I could get ready to use for self defense and that would take several minutes. It has an unloaded clip and isn't stored. I would have to find and open the ammo box, find and load the clip and only then be ready to shoot something. I am simply not worried enough about any need for using it. I don't live in fear. And yes, I know that having guns puts me at greater risk. And all that extra risk still looks like effectively zero to me. I have lived with that risk a very long time. I am also at risk of getting cancer from cosmic rays and those go up flying in an airplane.

Moonbeam · May 21, 2024

MrSquished said:
Moonie is moonie. I mean why are people so in denial of what people are?

I have been answering that question for going on 25 years on this forum. Seems like you would have to be in a state of denial not to have noticed why.

iRONic · May 21, 2024

Pohemi said:
It's possible, sure. If it's "in character" though, then it's a shitheaded character. He's been spewing bullshit like this for at least 15 years. He can FO with it.

I read zin's post and considered replying and agreeing. Then I read your post and said “yeah that'll take me less energy and I agree 100%”!

Fanks, mang. 😉

Lost_in_the_HTTP · May 21, 2024

Greg's big on Bible stuff right?

Thou shalt not kill.

Right?

Unless it's someone protesting something you disagree with.

Xcobra · May 22, 2024

Moonbeam said:
You are entitled to that opinion. I hope you know how projection works. Fearful people see others as fearful. This, creates a paradox. Suppose you see me as fearful and it is because you are projecting your fear on me. The fact that I see that does not mean I am projecting and you might actually be afraid. We can only hope you have some skill at self examination and dealing with bitter realities within.

I see/have no desire whatsoever to own a weapon and in no way do I feel like someone will come to me/my house and gun me down. I may have fear within me, but who is more afraid in this case? 😉

Moonbeam · May 22, 2024

Xcobra said:
I see/have no desire whatsoever to own a weapon and in no way do I feel like someone will come to me/my house and gun me down. I may have fear within me, but who is more afraid in this case? 😉

That is your choice but one I only partially make. The likelihood that someone will come for me in my home is quite unlikely and I rarely think about it, probably as likely as people who actually do get killed in their homes worried about it. For me it's a middle road approach I take. If I were instantly surprised by someone willing to kill for content I will be dead but if there is some time to prepare I will have a chance. That is what matters to me. I do not live alone and if a loved one were to be killed in a situation my being armed could have prevented I want zero chances of having to live with that regret. It isn't just me but the sense that I have a duty to do what I can to protect innocent people. I would do everything I can to preserve the right to make that choice. If, in the unlikelihood some one you love were saved by the gun of a gun owner, I can't imagine you would not be thankful they were able to do so.

Lost_in_the_HTTP · Jun 6, 2024

Is this even possible? Does it stand a chance?

Texas DA seeks to overturn governor's pardon of man convicted of fatally shooting protester

Travis County District Attorney José Garza is calling to overturn Gov. Greg Abbott's pardon of Daniel Perry, convicted for shooting a Black Lives Matter protester.

abcnews.go.com

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Amol S. · Jun 9, 2024

Pens1566 said:
He has to do something to keep up with Desantis in the "MAGA-off" they've got going on.

DeSantis already lost in that. People in his state are hating him more and more now.

Amol S. · Jun 9, 2024

Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
The Traitor proves 'the Party of Law And Order' is a sham.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott pardons Daniel Perry for killing Black Lives Matter protester in 2020 - UPI.com

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Thursday pardoned Daniel Perry who had been sentenced to 25 years in prison for murdering a Black Lives Matter protester in 2020.

www.upi.com

Could the federal government try the gov in a trial for racism?

HomerJS · Jun 9, 2024

Amol S. said:
Could the federal government try the gov in a trial for racism?

The Gov? No. That’s why I asked if DOJ can charge a civil rights violation. That way he won’t be released

brycejones · Jun 9, 2024

Amol S. said:
Could the federal government try the gov in a trial for racism?

Find a civics class to take……..

Moonbeam · Jun 9, 2024

brycejones said:
Find a civics class to take……..

Don't civic and civil have the same root?

Stokely · Jun 9, 2024

Amol S. said:
DeSantis already lost in that. People in his state are hating him more and more now.

News to me. I'd love it if that were true, but seems just as pants-on-head crazy here as always.

Desantis is still on his woke circle jerk, and not long ago the state gov put in some dipshit rule about how you can't mention "climate change" in government documents. Monty Python, if they were filming here, would just say fuck it and try to find another state where ultra-silly satire might actually differ from reality.

Greenman · Jun 11, 2024

Paratus said:
What?! Besides my wife and daughters being treated like 2nd class citizens, having to have backup power and water so we don’t freeze to death after cold weather, or cook in 100F+ heat after a hurricane or die of thirst/contaminated water after the municipal water supply goes down for either of the above, or the fire ants, mosquitos and 3 inch roaches it’s great!

I'm a little surprised by this. While I don't doubt you're dislike of the state, or the issues you have with it, I have to wonder why you stay in a place you hate when you appear to have the means to move?

TX gov Abbott to pardon man who killed BLM protester in 2020

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