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That's pretty awful for 50% more cores and higher IPC.
Well GB MT is not exactly the same as R23 MT workload. To me it looks like a fine result.The Zen 5C cores appear to be running at 3.65ghz in GB6.
Per AMD’s keynote slides CB R23 is one of the better performing workloads for Zen 5. They claimed a +17% IPC increase against Zen 4 at isoclocks. So not sure how that will effect the math of approximate clocks.
?The Zen 5C cores appear to be running at 3.65ghz in GB6.
One of the worst, actually.Per AMD’s keynote slides CB R23 is one of the better performing workloads for Zen 5
I have to be careful otherwise I’ll probably get reported and banned.?
One of the worst, actually.
?I have to be careful otherwise I’ll probably get reported and banned
Nope, Blender, or anything else not scalar SSE from year 2007 does better.I would say that qualifies as one of the better improvements for the new core.
Just got back from vacation and it was from posting in this thread.
That is probably(?) true but it doesn’t invalidate my statement that out of the data provided by AMD’s Zen 5 launch the CB R23 benchmark is one of the favored workloads above their geomean.Nope, Blender, or anything else not scalar SSE from year 2007 does better.
Pretty sure even Cinememe'2024 does better.
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Nope, Blender, or anything else not scalar SSE from year 2007 does better.
Pretty sure even Cinememe'2024 does better.
I get it, you want to win so hard, but alas!
Now show me 3.65G dense on Strix and do try to correlate that with Strix shedding 1.8G in rated bclk.
Let's just say that contradicts stuff I saw on a GNR ES.AMD’s Zen 5 launch the CB R23 benchmark is one of the favored workloads above their geomean
Strix starts losing nT luster pretty quickly above 30W since you're pushing dense way above 2W@core.Geomean 16% or "favored" 17% it doesn't impact the calculation, clocks must be lower than I expected.
AMD rep says that vanilla Zen 5 won’t top Zen 4x3d in gaming.
AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too
Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.www.tomshardware.com
I'd like to know what, exactly, "The efficiency of the lid and thermal design" means. I wonder if they will go into more details at the official launch event?Some other good tidbits from that interview (quotes from David McAfee, Corporate VP and General Manager of the Client Channel Business at AMD & Donny Woligroski, Senior Technical Marketing Manager of Consumer Processors):
"I think the other thing that we'll get into is the frequency residency in spite of the fact that the Fmax (maximum frequency) hasn't really changed," McAfee said. "As far as what's on the box, the frequency residency, the efficiency of the lid and thermal design in the 9000 generation gives your effective frequency a lift over the prior generation. So you actually do see a net, overall positive there with just the processor running faster with the Zen 5 architecture versus Zen 4."
"At the end of the day, we bought a non-X3D chip very close to an X3D chip when it comes to gaming,"
"All of those things are pretty big differences compared to previous small steps and launches. We're going back on TDP because it turns out our eight cores are so good we don't need higher TDP, so I think it's a pretty stark comparison"
Sounds like the 9700X should be within a few percentage points of the 7800X3D (9950X may reach parity?). Also interesting that the boost clocks will maintain a higher frequency for longer if what they said is true.
Interesting that all these slides are openly available for over one week now.Asus is doing their very best to spoil the reviews in July. This appears to be an absolute apples/apples comparison with same chassis and power consumption.
AMD rep says that vanilla Zen 5 won’t top Zen 4x3d in gaming.
AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too
Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.www.tomshardware.com
Interesting that all these slides are openly available for over one week now. View attachment 100972View attachment 100973
These two are against 7735U aka Rembrandt btw.
1.51× CPU and 1.34× GPU over Rembrandt results in ~1.25× CPU and 1.2× GPU over Phoenix.
Where are the slides available
Interesting that all these slides are openly available for over one week now. View attachment 100972View attachment 100973
These two are against 7735U aka Rembrandt btw.
1.51× CPU and 1.34× GPU over Rembrandt results in ~1.25× CPU and 1.2× GPU over Phoenix.
This is pretty bad.AMD rep says that vanilla Zen 5 won’t top Zen 4x3d in gaming.
AMD's Ryzen 9000 won't beat the previous-gen X3D models in gaming, but they'll be close — improved 3D V-Cache coming, too
Ryzen 9000's 3D V-Cache will get new features.www.tomshardware.com
The difference between 7700X and 7800X3D is ~18% according to CB . Let's wait for the benchmarks before we declare 9700X DOA.This is pretty bad.
Zen 5 is definitely not DOA but it's most definitely disappointingThe difference between 7700X and 7800X3D is ~18% according to CB . Let's wait for the benchmarks before we declare 9700X DOA.
All of Zen 4 is on fire sale. The other day on Newegg the 7950X was going for $430. That’s an amazing deal.LOL at the 7900X3D. It now costs $329 while the 7800X3D is $10 more at $339. Yea I get it, it's on sale. I wonder if AMD will bother with a 9900X3D though. If I were in the market for a 12 core CPU, I would opt for the non-3D variant. Six cores with V-cache just isn't enough to be worth it.
Well it depends.Zen 5 is definitely not DOA but it's most definitely disappointing