Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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ch33zw1z

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Don't get misled, the others don't give a shit about hallucinations. Google's CEO even said they're a good thing (not even joking he said that). Zuck gives even less of a shit, and most of the others have actively seeded mis/dis information into their models.

The entire industry feels like Musk, they just know enough to not publicly voice such thoughts, but many of them have deliberately sought out questionable input for their models with the intent to skew it.

Just seems like a recipe for disaster and mass manipulation that will make the Russian 2016 election interference look like child’s play
 
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iRONic

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I didn't read that ^^ article but Colbert had a piece on it last night. He said the tribe was hooked on porn!

Fucking Internet…
 
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Thank you, Starlink. 🤎


Why do I have a hunch this is gonna trace back to a satire site like The Onion? Or AI. And be more representative of the state of journalism.

Just seems like a recipe for disaster and mass manipulation that will make the Russian 2016 election interference look like child’s play

Bingo. Peter Thiel and a bunch of tech bros are literally openly saying they view democracy as "non-compatible with freedom" aka, them being held accountable and not be allowed to do whatever they want is discrimination against them. One of them is even straight up calling for ethnic cleansing over public resentment over these despicable assholes. Then you have Andreesen's fucked up AI manifesto. I don't think Zuckerberg or the CEOs and higher executives of Google and Microsoft disagree, and Facebook has said they won't actually do anything about election misinformation this time, and Google clearly has no problem with their AI shit spouting falsities. Even OpenAI admits Russia, China, Iran, India, and others are using AI already to try to fuck with things. I guarantee its already worse than that and its only going to get worse.

Much like 2016 revealed stuff that had been in the works for years, this stuff is already here and happening. I'd say even pretty informed people are probably 5 years behind what is going on with these companies. It'll probably be another 5 for normal people to really get an idea. Like how in the last few years there's been several documentaries (there's a couple of Netflix that got quite a bit of press and word of mouth that you see for really notable stuff), and much of the things they were talking about had started a decade before. And anything being done about Google's ad business was a decade behind (when Google bought up most of the online ad companies).

There's also evidence that corporations and billionaires are using these tools for nefarious shit. There was some rich guy that was paying for vehicles to drive around the protests over Israel using facial recognition so they could then find peoples' identities and then try to get them fired and otherwise shamed/harmed.

Several of the AI facial recognition companies explicitly are selling to law enforcement and are shady as shit. We know this stuff has been abused. Much like how cops were using stingrays and similar, which was often blatantly illegal. This is just gonna get worse and worse.

Something else to consider, one of the revelations of Snowden was that the NSA was struggling to process all the data they were gathering. I have a hunch that a bunch of this AI stuff came out of the NSA developing tools to process the data (I think Snowden even said they were actively working on that stuff, which is why he felt the need to sound the alarm), which they then seeded to tech companies to enable them to snoop even more and even better. Google and Microsoft both have contracts with US military and very probably intelligence services.
 
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Ugh, I fucking hate the state of news now. I switched to DuckDuckGo as my search engine after Google's AI shit (unfortunately DDG is also doing AI shit but at least it seems to be opt-in so far, well beyond it probably being involved in their search algorithms), and apparently are partnered with MSN or something as their news is like half full of MSN links (which since its just an aggregator means I'd have to click through to find out who actually is the source), but then over half of the other is just enabling the assholes that forced layoffs at most news sites. Add in the history of some of these (Gawker), and just ugh, its all just trash now. I didn't want to link the site I originally saw it on as its a car site that is now headed over by some clickbait posting assholes (who post more and more stories about random social media posts about barely car related shit cause it'll get clicks). And likewise, can't trust local news links either due to Sinclair and other shitty groups controlling them (or in other instances the local news station just being shit).

So, fuck the link, you can find one of these aggregated click through links if you want.

Story is, Air Force asshole posts a video on social media of him driving 83MPH in a 35MPH street to show off his Cybertruck. People go WTF and he claims he worked with police to close the street so he could do the "public demonstration" (which either was obviously BS or he did have some cop/cop-buddy do that, but almost certainly was not something approved or should have been approved), and now he's, thankfully, being investigated (both by police and the Air Force). Police have already said they can't charge him with speeding/wreckless driving he showed in the video (for some reason, most likely cause they don't give a shit and are lazy but will claim Nevada law or some shit which probably doesn't actually prevent them from doing that) but have said they have no record of him coordinating with police to close the street (so most likely they're doing one of their sham internal investigations to see if one of their cops gave the go ahead for this dipshit to do this stunt and reprimand them for embarrassing the department on social media).

There does seem to be a correlation between Musk being an a-hole and attracting people like this Air Force a-hole (but that guy probably used to roll coal or some other dipshittery; point being its coordinating these a-holes to buddy up). Next, I'm guessing Musk will decry the "woke mob cancelling this fine Patriot" or some shit and then probably hire him to be head of Robotaxis just to "own the libs".
 

akugami

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I hope Tesla does ban Apple devices. Please also remove the Tesla app from the iOS app store. It's not like Apple fanboys are a prime audience for Tesla's or anything...oh...wait...
 

akugami

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I posted this before, probably in this same thread, but the reason Space Karen is mad is because he is butt hurt that OpenAI's valuation is a gazillion dollars and none of it is going to enrich him. Just look at his attempt to weasel billions in bonuses from Tesla. This was 100% a frivolous lawsuit, filed only because his ego is hurt.
 
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Stokely

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Nepotism sucks. Don't shit where you eat, but of course he's the type that likely considers women at "his" companies "his" to choose from. Seen a not-quite-so-creepy version of this where I work.
 
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You simply don't appreciate the workload that Elon has of trying to get to Mars and also personally impregnate all the women who work for him, who's careers and advancement are at his mercy, at the same time.
You would think Musk was some descendant of Dr Strangelove... (Which would be fitting given the whole being a Nazi scientist thing)

Muffley: well I... I would hate to have to decide.. who stays up and.. who goes down.

Strangelove: Well, that would not be necessary Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.
 
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K1052

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You would think Musk was some descendant of Dr Strangelove... (Which would be fitting given the whole being a Nazi scientist thing)

Muffley: well I... I would hate to have to decide.. who stays up and.. who goes down.

Strangelove: Well, that would not be necessary Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

If we eventually get a story about him screening potential breeding stock....er perspective female employees with phrenology calipers I would not be surprised.
 

MrSquished

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so the shareholder vote results will be available tomorrow? I think the deadline is tonight at 11:59pm
 

repoman0

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so the shareholder vote results will be available tomorrow? I think the deadline is tonight at 11:59pm
I was researching whether I can vote with the shares contained in my index funds, since it adds up to a decent amount — sadly seems like no. But gladly most of my shares are in Vanguard funds and since those guys know what they’re doing, they voted against for me.
 
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WelshBloke

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so the shareholder vote results will be available tomorrow? I think the deadline is tonight at 11:59pm
So I'm not massive on shares and things so I'm going to ask some possibly stupid questions.

Musk wants Tesla to give him $50billion?
Tesla needs shareholder approval for this?
Telsa doesnt have $50B in cash so they will issue lots of shares and give him those?
Obviously Tesla is worth the same amount before the extra shares are issued as it is after. So for those new shares to have any value value needs to transfer from the existing shares.
This would devalue the existing shares.
So voting for Elon to get the payout is a direct transfer of wealth from current shareholders to Musk? Its literally them withdrwing money from their savings and posting it to Elon.

So why would shareholders vote for that?
 
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Zorba

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I was researching whether I can vote with the shares contained in my index funds, since it adds up to a decent amount — sadly seems like no. But gladly most of my shares are in Vanguard funds and since those guys know what they’re doing, they voted against for me.
Did Vanguard vote no? Do you have a link? I had assumed they would, be glad if that is true.
 

Zorba

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So I'm not massive on shares and things so I'm going to ask some possibly stupid questions.

Musk wants Tesla to give him $50billion?
Tesla needs shareholder approval for this?
Telsa doesnt have $50B in cash so they will issue lots of shares and give him those?
Obviously Tesla is worth the same amount before the extra shares are issued as it is after. So for those new shares to have any value value needs to transfer from the existing shares.
This would devalue the existing shares.
So voting for Elon to get the payout is a direct transfer of wealth from current shareholders to Musk? Its literally them withdrwing money from their savings and posting it to Elon.

So why would shareholders vote for that?
Yup, at least on a stock that is actually tied to fundamentals or performance at all.
 
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