'Everyone hates the guy on top' pulls eyeballs, 'guy on top doing okay' doesn't. Blame advertising, that's the cause of all this bullshit.
'Everyone hates the guy on top' pulls eyeballs, 'guy on top doing okay' doesn't. Blame advertising, that's the cause of all this bullshit.
People are susceptible to all kinds of manipulative marketing strategies. It requires a lot of knowledge and training just to be able to recognize some of it. Nobody is impervious to all of it. This is why I said a while ago that this knowledge and training needs to be a core part of standard K-12 education. It won't happen any time soon though because this lack of training makes GDP go brrrrrr.'Everyone hates the guy on top' pulls eyeballs, 'guy on top doing okay' doesn't. Blame advertising, that's the cause of all this bullshit.
This must be why I see Marky Mark pimping some app in commercials with his “Stay Prayed Up” spiel.And not a whisper of this by the hypocrites
Megachurch accepts resignation of pastor who had inappropriate relationship with 12 year old years ago
Not fired, resigned. After ignoring complaints until it became widely known of course. He prayed so it was ok right greenman and pcgeek? As long as the sky god says it’s ok we good right? After all, it is only the woke left immigrants that do that kind of thing right?
You could probably replace a formal education on the topic with a simple primer: if someone you don't know is attempting to get your attention for something you didn't agree to ahead of time, and it isn't an emergency, they probably want your money.People are susceptible to all kinds of manipulative marketing strategies. It requires a lot of knowledge and training just to be able to recognize some of it. Nobody is impervious to all of it. This is why I said a while ago that this knowledge and training needs to be a core part of standard K-12 education. It won't happen any time soon though because this lack of training makes GDP go brrrrrr.
It likely won't be small, demographic shifts are probably notable since even 2020 when he lost. Republicans are going to have to pull a rabbit or two out of a hat.I wonder how much the outsized excess deaths of anti-vaxxer COVID denialist Trumpers over the last 4 years will have an effect on this race?
I don’t think that makes sense, the data I’ve seen showed higher death rates for republicans generally, not only in deep red states.But higher that average covid death rates probably happening in deep red areas. So sure he’ll have lower vote counts, it’s still won’t flip the state
I don’t think it will matter much as it isn’t in the news to remind ppl. Whether Biden team or Demo PACs will push this point is unanswered at this point. + what @fskimospy said.I wonder how much the outsized excess deaths of anti-vaxxer COVID denialist Trumpers over the last 4 years will have an effect on this race?
I don’t think it will matter much as it isn’t in the news to remind ppl. Whether Biden team or Demo PACs will push this point is unanswered at this point. + what @fskimospy said.
I don’t think it will matter much as it isn’t in the news to remind ppl. Whether Biden team or Demo PACs will push this point is unanswered at this point. + what @fskimospy said.
Agreed. Some people here are acting like Democratic voters didn't die from Covid as well. Also, the real question is whether the living learned any lessons from Covid. I fully recognize we're post-pandemic but the crazy thing is that a lot of people (primarily MAGA, but not exclusively) now firmly believe that lockdowns were unnecessary. If people still DGAF that 1M+ fellow Americans died, then it's unlikely to affect electoral results.But higher that average covid death rates probably happening in deep red areas. So sure he’ll have lower vote counts, it’s still won’t flip the state
I think what people are saying is more republicans died of COVID than Democrats and that is true.Agreed. Some people here are acting like Democratic voters didn't die from Covid as well. Also, the real question is whether the living learned any lessons from Covid. I fully recognize we're post-pandemic but the crazy thing is that a lot of people (primarily MAGA, but not exclusively) now firmly believe that lockdowns were unnecessary. If people still DGAF that 1M+ fellow Americans died, then it's unlikely to affect electoral results.
As usual @K1052 is astute and I don't discount that every vote counts in the Rust Belt, in particular. I can't recall if there were any studies that tried to tease out this effect in the 2022 midterms.
We're generally in agreement here. But there are some in this thread who are saying it'll make an electoral impact. (Wishful thinking IMO)I think what people are saying is more republicans died of COVID than Democrats and that is true.
Excess Death Rates for Republican and Democratic Voters in Florida and Ohio During the COVID-19 Pandemic
This cross-sectional study examines the differences in excess death rates between Republican and Democratic voters in Florida and Ohio after the COVID-19 vaccine became available for all adults.jamanetwork.com
I don’t think it’s likely to make that big a difference but considering the small margins crucial states could be decided by there’s a chance it will.
By the 2020 election, there were actually slightly more deaths to Democrats than Republicans by most studies, with early deaths disproportionately concentrated in urban areas, and vaccines not widely available until 2021. But after general vaccine availability in 2021, the trend massively reversed as described in the linked study.In 2020 if you give Trump the states that Biden won by a less than 1% margin, some 40K votes in all, the EC would tie and under the 12th Amendment Trump would be made president.
A bunch of dead Republicans in WI, GA, and AZ could have conceivably cost him the election.
Carrying this further, for sake of argument, call the excess deaths in the Republican population ~200,000 (which is still a horrific figure of unnecessary murders by MAGA/disinformation), and assume those are spread proportionately to population across the states. (Note more than half the estimated >1.2 million excess US deaths due to covid were prior to widespread vaccine availability). Mass excess deaths from COVID after general vaccine availability were disproportionately Republican, roughly 60/40 based on reported figures, which may very well be an undercount particularly of R death, I've rounded up to 2/3 for ease of maths.We're generally in agreement here. But there are some in this thread who are saying it'll make an electoral impact. (Wishful thinking IMO)
The back of the envelope math on how many more (R) voters died of Covid isn't that difficult. On average, I'm thinking in the high 4 digits (thousands) per state. But realistically, the absolute numbers are highest in high population states (non-competitive), and proportionally highest in the reddest states (also non-competitive). So that leaves a handful of battleground states.
As K1052 pointed out, the three states in 2020 with vote margins of 20k or less were: GA, AZ and WI. (But bear in mind that total-to-date Covid deaths in Nov 2020 were a lot lower than they were by Nov 2022.) Even in these closest contests, the margin of victory exceeds any plausible estimate of net votes lost to (R) Covid mortality.
By the 2020 election, there were actually slightly more deaths to Democrats than Republicans by most studies, with early deaths disproportionately concentrated in urban areas, and vaccines not widely available until 2021. But after general vaccine availability in 2021, the trend massively reversed as described in the linked study.
i am convinced if trump had handled covid in a manner that virtually any other president would have...he would have cruised to victory easily. instead, trump trumped and a million plus people paid the price.Exactly what influence voter deaths had on the election in the close states is something we can never know with certainly given the available information. There are too many unknown variables. In a larger context Trump's overall handling of the pandemic was probably a bigger factor overall, people were not happy.
Which any sane person should use to disqualify him from consideration. Nope not these repugnicansIn a larger context Trump's overall handling of the pandemic was probably a bigger factor overall, people were not happy.