Right? Silence of the Lambs dear chap? Sir Anthony Hopkins would like a word.
eh? seriously?
Best in Show (Christopher Guest, 2000) 2/10
Thorough going POS. Not funny. Stuck it out because just 90 minutes and it did improve when they finalllllly got to the show itself. Still, not funny and painfully reaching for material. Have to think the winged it mostly. This is not a movie to toss aside lightly, it should be heaved with all your might out the window.
Right? Silence of the Lambs dear chap? Sir Anthony Hopkins would like a word.
Still waiting for an actual, pertinent answer to my questionit's just a silly question to ask.
Just because some people died from a simple cut does not mean that ALL people died from a simple cut.
Am I missing something here? I don't see Walter White as the villain.Breaking Bad Emmys:
Fair enough. Though we don't know how common death from simple cuts was in Japan and what their hygiene habits were like in the old days.It took until the 19th century for the (Western at least) medical establishment to realise just how important hand-washing is:
Ignaz Semmelweis - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Am I missing something here? I don't see Walter White as the villain.
Maybe take the time to consider what part of being a murderous, highly successful meth cooker makes him a "good guy".
Am I missing something here? I don't see Walter White as the villain.
Walter White and the antiheroes journey
I've just emerged bleary and elated from a 3 week binge of the acclaimed TV series Breaking Bad. I was late to the series about Mr Chips morphing to Scarface but only saw the full splendor of it half way into season 2. Then I was hooked.www.madhousemedia.com.au
Not a villain. A villain is someone who has nothing likeable, other than maybe making you laugh at his stupid decisions and actions. But what makes him even worse is when he starts hurting/killing characters you care about.
Which one of these won an Oscar? (excluding the ones where you think the protagonist is the villain)I'm barely halfway through my list, I'll stop there.
Which one of these won an Oscar? (excluding the ones where you think the protagonist is the villain)
Out of your list and from the ones I've seen, Roy Batty becomes likeable at the end and Ra's Al Ghul is played by Liam who is hard to hate.
"Self-righteous psychopath" - that's not generally true of villains or even true in 'Falling Down', IMO. Disclaimer: I am not a mental health professional. He's evidently having some kind of breakdown, sure."The best written villain is the one that doesn't realize or think he's the villain" <<< That's a self righteous psychopath. Wouldn't say that's the perfect villain as it would infuriate me more rather than enjoy watching someone like that. But if we accept that as the definition of a perfect villain, it would be hard to like them because if they did really well, you end up hating them and hence, the actor.
A movie has big problems if it gets best actor for the villain. A villain's role is only to serve as a purpose for the protagonist to show his humanity and which the villain can only portray best by being anti-human. If we start giving away best actor awards to these people, suddenly you get a society that promotes bad behavior and moral decadency.
suddenly you get a society that promotes bad behavior and moral decadency.
Probably won't ever see Platoon.Platoon, Tom Berenger got an oscar nomination
Unforgiven, Gene Hackman
IMO hating an actor because they played an evil role is a job I leave to those with dubious (adult) mental competence.
You have a tendency to shift goalposts: Your previous point was what you thought a villain has no likeable qualities.
Probably won't ever see Platoon.
Unforgiven was good but he didn't win. He was probably nominated because people generally like him and they were just happy to see him make an appearance in the movie. Academy members are human after all.
Hating an actor for the role they played is a natural human and emotional response based on the events they just witnessed on screen. I would argue that if someone falls in love with an actor for portraying a despiccable and hateful villain, maybe something's not right there?
Not sure how I'm shifting the goalpost. I still maintain that villains are unlikable. If I like a villain, maybe he's an anti-hero and not really a villain. Let's take Homelander's example. I like the guy. As a generally weak and mostly unhealthy balding male, hell yeah I wanna be Homelander! I would even love looking like him coz the guy's mostly handsome and you can probably pick up chicks easily with a face like that without even being a celebrity.
But give him an award? For repulsing me with his onscreen actions? No thanks. It's not just his pure acting ability allowing him to pull this crazy character off. It's the costume and make-up and the director as well as the excellent writing. There's no evidence that someone else couldn't do it better.
Off the top of my head (I don't pay attention to awards), Heath Ledger won a posthumous Oscar for the Joker. I also think Louise Fletcher won one for Nurse Ratched.Which one of these won an Oscar? (excluding the ones where you think the protagonist is the villain)
That's not for Best Actor. It's for Best Supporting Actor.Gene Hackman won an oscar.
Shooting stuff on screen for fun isn't the same as holding a villain in high regard, enough to duplicate his actions/way of thinking in real life situations which is what immature minds would do. "Oh it's cool to be like Deadpool. Imma gonna pull my dick out in public and laugh my ass off at the look on everyone's faces!".I'm sorry, but that's just as delusional as saying that people who enjoy say violent video games are going to do something awful.
Still don't understand what I said to deviate the conversation away from the original point. All I said was, villains are unlikable in general despite their performances. Weird if they win the Best Actor award (meaning none of the protagonists in the other nominated movies were up to snuff so there was nothing to do but choose the perfectly portrayed villain).Shifting goalpost - you started talking about "perfect villains", but perhaps the "perfect" element wasn't relevant, but it seemed like it probably was.
I enjoy his personality wayyy more than his actions. He exudes confidence. I like what I see in him coz I lack it in my own person. Yes, I know he's the villain that's why him winning Best Actor seems improbable to me.Logically you're saying that something is not right with you because you enjoyed the actor's performance playing Homelander. Btw, you do understand that Homelander is 100% the villain, right?
If your perspective ruled the film-making world then few actors would ever want to play villains because there's little notoriety for doing so.
For Best Supporting ActorHeath Ledger won a posthumous Oscar for the Joker.
This is weird, for she won Best Actress (I don't remember her role despite having seen that movie. Didn't leave an impression on me). Must be really crappy actresses nominated against her. Still, despite this being a good example refuting my point, it doesn't falsify my notion that villains winning Best Actor/Actress is improbable. If this were so important a role, there would be a Best Villain award.I also think Louise Fletcher won one for Nurse Ratched.
I'm actually not interested in "proving" my point. I know that I hold weird viewpoints that run contrary to what is considered "normal". But I just don't see villains being hailed as heroes more often. Joaquin Phoenix winning Best Actor is the exception but even there, I would argue that he wasn't playing the villain but rather a mentally disturbed person with whom the audience sort of empathizes with.So you want a villain who isn't the protagonist winning an award that isn't supporting? Getting awfully restrictive there just to try to prove a silly point.
Well you also said that you didn't like his character anymore, didn't give him many props, and said he wasn't actually even the best actor on the show (you named somebody else) - so you did also minimize the Homelander acting role.I'm actually not interested in "proving" my point. I know that I hold weird viewpoints that run contrary to what is considered "normal". But I just don't see villains being hailed as heroes more often. Joaquin Phoenix winning Best Actor is the exception but even there, I would argue that he wasn't playing the villain but rather a mentally disturbed person with whom the audience sort of empathizes with.
Let's not forget how this all started.
Homelander should win Best Actor.
Me: Not likely.
That's the entire thing in a nutshell. And everyone seems to have taken it upon themselves to defend villains. Hilarious, if you ask me
Best of luck to him.Antony Starr is absolutely S-tier level playing Homelander. That is just a fact.