Occasionally I'm tempted to scream a swearword while building a PC

mikeymikec

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The PC I'm building for a customer is very similar to what I've done many times before but this time the customer needed wifi and I wanted a tidier arrangement than to have a USB wifi adapter this time (I regret this decision in hindsight).

I picked out a PCIE card that looked reasonable, an ASUS AX3000 card and it also has Bluetooth for an added bonus.

I built the computer, I was about to boot it for the first time when I decided to tidy up a bit, separate recyclable packaging, that kind of thing. That's when I encountered a funny-looking cable that came with the Wifi card. The instructions that came with the card don't mention the cable. I looked at one end of the cable and had a sinking feeling: A USB 2.0 connector to plug into a motherboard header, and I'm already using both board USB 2.0 headers (anyone notice they're not in bountiful supply on boards these days?), one to supply a front USB 2.0 port and one to supply two ports at the back. In about three seconds of looking at this cable I realise what now looks to be true in that for some bizarre reason the Bluetooth capabilities are fed through the USB interface on the card and the BT is recognised as a USB device. Sure enough, in Device Manager, there's a wifi card entry but no BT (Win11 would have picked it up as generic BT I'm sure). I'll test my theory completely before I sacrifice either the extra two rear USB 2.0 ports I installed (most likely), which then I'll have to put in a blanking plate (not black, naturally) or the front USB 2.0 port which isn't really needed given that the case also has a front USB 3.0 port, but who would want to see a non-functional USB port in plain sight on a new PC.

Grr.

What I find really bizarre though is that this wifi card is not a normal PCIE card in the sense that one would expect to see the ICs mounted directly on the PCB, this card has a mini-PCIE slot that a laptop mini-PCIE card connects into, and given that combined Wifi + BT cards in laptops are far more common than wifi-only cards and they don't freaking need additional USB connectivity THEN WHY THE HELL DOES THIS ONE?!?

The card (without additional drivers) recognises as an Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 160MHz device. Gee whiz, what a surprise: Intel has BT drivers to download for this card too.
 

mikeymikec

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Oh, but they Do...

I've never seen an additional cable coming out of a wifi card; if it does exist then (in my experience) it's not commonplace. The wifi card goes in the mini PCIE slot then are two connectors for the positive and negative contacts for the aerial.
 

Tech Junky

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You can avoid the cable by mounting it on the mobo directly. Just have to have pigtails for the antennas out the back. Pigtails are cheap and antennas are as well
 

Tech Junky

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mini-PCIE connector
That's when you get the M2 instead of mPCIE. Most of the adapters/cards being sold are M2 under the heat sink if they even have one. Considering you can get the M2 itself for ~$20 it's a cheaper idea as well. Add antennas / pigtails for ~$10 and you're still $20+ cheaper than the prefabbed cards.

Since you seem to be doing quite a few builds you can even get discounts on quantity orders. I finds mouser.com to be the cheapest deal for parts.
 

MrSquished

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Usually when I swear during a build, which aren't that often these years, It's usually at myself.

You're such a dumb fuck. What the fuck were you thinking. Oh my God you're so goddamn stupid.
 

Hans Gruber

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Why not just get a motherboard with wifi built in? From experience, using external cards always leads to weird issues with wifi and internet connectivity in general. I am not saying that happens all the time.
 

mikeymikec

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Why not just get a motherboard with wifi built in? From experience, using external cards always leads to weird issues with wifi and internet connectivity in general. I am not saying that happens all the time.

In hindsight I probably should have done, but I haven't been all that keen about the aerial that comes with ASUS boards (neither sturdy or stable). It would have been nice if internal wifi aerial cabling had become standard in desktop cases so therefore onboard wifi could connect straight to the case's aerial cabling, therefore no need for silly little aerials that go floppy if the user turns them the wrong way, etc.

It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to do by hand? Though perhaps the aerial wire should not be hidden behind a metal sideplate etc for reception quality reasons?
 
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