Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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Mopetar

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Shame Igor's lab name is already occupied Well, we can always branch into Moor's Law is Alive, a trustworthy, good twin of Toms MLID youtube channel

I'd go with Living Laws: Moore's for the name as it solves two problems at once. VCs are already all throwing obscene amounts of money at the mere mention of an LLM, so that'll take care of the riches.
 
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Thibsie

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Specifically a few years ago posters who were fairly and talked as if they had just bought a whole bunch of Intel shares and kept going on about how with AVX-512 Intel would conquer the world.
Haven't seen any of those posters in a while but I guess AVX-512 was not the latest thing after all, at least not for Intel!
They did the same with SSE2 in P4 era.
Strangely 3dnow! was useless though xD
 

trivik12

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Strix has 5 times the design volume of Hamoa so they don't need to.
We will see. But I am talking about kind of marketing push that Qualcomm is going for with Microsoft and big retailers/online sites. That provides kind of eyeball to GA that general designs dont. As I said I have not seen lot of AMD latest and greatest in store for phoenix or Hawk. I hope it changes with Strix.
 

deasd

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Why mentioning AVX512 all of a sudden, is AVX512 unuseful?

OK I'm joking. This is a thing that you would usually ignore it, but it would be crazy when it is being fully utilized.

Topaz AI series are one of the most common and easy-to-use software to do upscaling with AI, and Zen400% with AVX512 just blow everything out of the water:





what's worth noting is that 11900k with AVX512 doesn't receive any boost in these softwares.

On the other hand, the performance of other Intel processors that should have the original full-performance 512-bit version of VNNI (Rocket Lake, for example Core i9-11900K) is relatively low too. Those don’t see a similarly brutal performance increase over thire predecessor (Core i9-10900K) that Zen 4 does.

Who knows, perhaps Intel is now regretting that it invested in accelerating apps like Topaz Labs software via VNNI and OpenVINO, now that it sees how – at least for the moment – it benefits the competition mre than them…
 

Fjodor2001

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I think they managed to quote Kepler faster once.
Someone leaked ahead of the Anandtech post that time?

That said. I think there is some point in WTFTech. They are actually quite good at scanning the tech leak landscape and summarizing findings. Even if they are not the best in accuracy, you have to give them credit for being quick. So if one applies a "common sense filter" to what is published, rendering what is reasonable vs BS, I think it's ok.

I'd much rather keep them as a player in the game than discarding them completely.
 

Saylick

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That said. I think there is some point in WTFTech. They are actually quite good at scanning the tech leak landscape and summarizing findings. Even if they are not the best in accuracy, you have to give them credit for being quick. So if one applies a "common sense filter" to what is published, rendering what is reasonable vs BS, I think it's ok.

I'd much rather keep them as a player in the game than discarding them completely.
More like they are good at following certain people on Xitter, refreshing their feed on a regular basis, and when something interesting pops up, crack their knuckles and essentially write a minimum of 3x the number of words actually needed to convey the information presented in the source (sadly, this often miscommunicates the original information in their efforts to write more than needed since it allows them more ads in between paragraphs).

If AI can be useful for something, it's to create a news aggregator which can do a better job of compiling news than these hacks. I don't care if AI runs them out of a job.
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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Can someone with a 7950X download the LinX bench and post the GFlops number with the mentioned problem size of 35000 and the same allocated memory of around 9300MiB?

I cannot find benchmark results online for that programme but it seems to be available for free. And the bench only takes a few minutes. Do it boys!

I tried but I can't seem to find a version that runs correctly, including the only matching v0.7.0 download I could find - They all just barely load the CPU at all (3-5%) and run forever without finishing.
 
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