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Putin Replaces Head of Spy Agency Behind Decision to Invade Ukraine—Report

The Russian president reportedly relied on intelligence from the FSB's fifth directorate when he launched his invasion of Ukraine.


Crimea Videos Show Fires Blazing As Space Radar Targeted with ATACMS—Report

Kyiv's forces are reported to have struck Russia's Center for Long-Range Space Communications in the village of Vitino in Crimea.

Fire Rages at Moscow Research Center Behind Signal-Jamming Tech—Video

Videos showed flames and plumes of smoke inside the facility, which supplies Putin's military and air force with EW-jamming and radar technology.


Cracks in Putin's Nuclear Shield Lead to Arrest of Russian Millionaire

A Russian millionaire has been arrested on suspicion of fraud, though some believe the arrest may be due to dissatisfaction with his company's missile system.



All going according to plan.
 

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Tidbits:


Putin Replaces Head of Spy Agency Behind Decision to Invade Ukraine—Report

The Russian president reportedly relied on intelligence from the FSB's fifth directorate when he launched his invasion of Ukraine.


Crimea Videos Show Fires Blazing As Space Radar Targeted with ATACMS—Report

Kyiv's forces are reported to have struck Russia's Center for Long-Range Space Communications in the village of Vitino in Crimea.

Fire Rages at Moscow Research Center Behind Signal-Jamming Tech—Video

Videos showed flames and plumes of smoke inside the facility, which supplies Putin's military and air force with EW-jamming and radar technology.


Cracks in Putin's Nuclear Shield Lead to Arrest of Russian Millionaire

A Russian millionaire has been arrested on suspicion of fraud, though some believe the arrest may be due to dissatisfaction with his company's missile system.



All going according to plan.
Wow. All Newsweek and yet all four articles are fact based. The writing is tight and not given to any rhetorical excess.. And the last three is the first I've heard of what they reported.
 

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More trouble at home ....

9 killed, including police officers, as attacks launched on synagogue, Orthodox church in southern Russia: Officials

ABC|6 hours ago
An apparent coordinated attack Sunday in southern Russia has left at least six law enforcement officers dead and 12 people injured.

Come for the waves, stay for the bomblets trying to take out the S-300 launchers in the hotel parking lot.

Don't know why it is but this situation at the Crimean beach sort'a reminds me of the movie Jaws, where the business people and gov't agencies have a vested interest in keeping the beach packed with crowds to keep profits up and maintain the appearance that everything is just peachy keen. The top leaders in the region are practically extorting the local business owners and gov't officials to set the example by jumping in the water, get a tan, ignore the missiles and attack drones flying overhead.
 
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OK, so more .....


Vlad may not be too happy lately .....


Kremlin Responds to Reports Russian Ally Supplying Weapons to Ukraine

Serbian ammunition is supplied to Kyiv via third countries, the Financial Times reported.

Vietnam Reaffirms 'Strategic Partnership' With US Day After Putin Visit

The State Department denied Assistant Secretary of State Kritenbrink's visit was planned to follow the Russian leader's.


Putin Silent as Russia Hit by Spate of 'Terror Attacks'

The Kremlin said that the Russian president would not comment on attacks in Dagestan or a strike in Sevastopol, Crimea.


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Don't know why it is but this situation at the Crimean beach sort'a reminds me of the movie Jaws, where the business people and gov't agencies have a vested interest in keeping the beach packed with crowds to keep profits up and maintain the appearance that everything is just peachy keen. The top leaders in the region are practically extorting the local business owners and gov't officials to set the example by jumping in the water, get a tan, ignore the missiles and attack drones flying overhead.
When have the lives of Russian peasants ever mattered? Never.
 

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When have the lives of Russian peasants ever mattered? Never.
Well the problem is a lot of beach goers in Crimean are not exactly peasants. At least historically they were among the more elite (maybe that's not true today as a lot of elite have trouble avoiding open windows).
 

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OK, so more .....


Vlad may not be too happy lately .....


Kremlin Responds to Reports Russian Ally Supplying Weapons to Ukraine

Serbian ammunition is supplied to Kyiv via third countries, the Financial Times reported.

Vietnam Reaffirms 'Strategic Partnership' With US Day After Putin Visit

The State Department denied Assistant Secretary of State Kritenbrink's visit was planned to follow the Russian leader's.


Putin Silent as Russia Hit by Spate of 'Terror Attacks'

The Kremlin said that the Russian president would not comment on attacks in Dagestan or a strike in Sevastopol, Crimea.


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Their may be some acrimony between the official Viet Nam government and the US, but they aren't stupid.
 
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Like many if not most developing world countries Vietnam is going to do what's best for Vietnam. "We" probably have more to offer them than the Rooskies, but that doesn't mean they won't also do business with Russia if the opportunity is best for them..
 

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Well the problem is a lot of beach goers in Crimean are not exactly peasants. At least historically they were among the more elite (maybe that's not true today as a lot of elite have trouble avoiding open windows).
Exactly.. its one of the reasons why many Russians are brainwashed zombies in that a majority of the citizens have never been out of the country which is historically was something upper middle class to upper class folks in Russia did. If your whole world view revolves around Russia and what they say in their local propaganda media and politicians than you will view those outside Russia as something bad. The people in Crimea vacationing are rich but also brainwashed zombies thinking going to a beach in a war zone is a good idea.
 

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Exactly.. its one of the reasons why many Russians are brainwashed zombies in that a majority of the citizens have never been out of the country which is historically was something upper middle class to upper class folks in Russia did. If your whole world view revolves around Russia and what they say in their local propaganda media and politicians than you will view those outside Russia as something bad. The people in Crimea vacationing are rich but also brainwashed zombies thinking going to a beach in a war zone is a good idea.
Even Russians in St. Petersburg and Moscow are incredibly weirdly paranoid and delusional about the outside world. They were convinced back in 2017 that Americans all hated them. When I told them Americans just didn’t think about Russia much they refused to believe me.
 

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Even Russians in St. Petersburg and Moscow are incredibly weirdly paranoid and delusional about the outside world. They were convinced back in 2017 that Americans all hated them. When I told them Americans just didn’t think about Russia much they refused to believe me.

Telling them they are not important enough for us to hate probably went over well with their massive collective inferiority complex.
 

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Telling them they are not important enough for us to hate probably went over well with their massive collective inferiority complex.
Haha I’m sure. They did seem sort of offended that we don’t think about them all the time like they think about us.
 

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Even Russians in St. Petersburg and Moscow are incredibly weirdly paranoid and delusional about the outside world. They were convinced back in 2017 that Americans all hated them. When I told them Americans just didn’t think about Russia much they refused to believe me.
Russians in Moscow were far better when I worked with them in 2003-2005, generally open and interested in U.S. / the west. All it took was a decade or so of Fox-like propaganda control of the media and constant series of wars of aggression for Putin to turn that narrative back around and get the public focused on external fictitious threats rather than internal failures.
 

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Russians in Moscow were far better when I worked with them in 2003-2005, generally open and interested in U.S. / the west. All it took was a decade or so of Fox-like propaganda control of the media and constant series of wars of aggression for Putin to turn that narrative back around and get the public focused on external fictitious threats rather than internal failures.

Sadly, this mirrors the Chinese under Xi.
 

Ajay

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Well the problem is a lot of beach goers in Crimean are not exactly peasants. At least historically they were among the more elite (maybe that's not true today as a lot of elite have trouble avoiding open windows).

Nah - no villa == peasant. I suppose for a bit, Russia had a reasonable number of upper middle class folks able to afford nice vacations; that's all in the dumpster now.

 

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Their may be some acrimony between the official Viet Nam government and the US, but they aren't stupid.


There might be a little saltiness from the 'old guard,' the people who remember B-52s, but 'The American War' was a long time ago and they've had multiple conflicts since then. The Vietnamese friggin love us now, partly thanks to the belligerent bully with a stick up his ass, China, partly from Western investments. They still need to stay nice with Russia, keeping their Kilo subs running is paramount, but the embrace of the West and attitudes towards say, the Japanese, are encouraging to say the least. I can't wait to visit. I've never been, wanted to since I was a boy. Some friends that have gone have all raved about it, even the ones who can't handle hot humid weather. Amazing food scene.


 
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