new century, same crap: Native American religion is devil worship

Leeea

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There are many ways to God.

Those who deny this only to turn people away from God.


Who is actually served by this action?
 

Jaskalas

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What the hell is wrong with people?
Humans are fundamentally evil.
These fine Christians are no different, wanting to attack other families for ceremonial differences. For being different.
The United States is supposed to exist to ward off those kind of assaults on the freedom of expression, to uphold the liberty of our people. And I expect action towards that end.

OTOH, modern fascism with MAGA is going to give rise to lawlessness and a great breach of our sacred duty to protect each other from... each other.
 

HomerJS

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Evangelicals only want religious freedom for…



Wait for it…….





Christianity. They don’t have respect for other religions
 
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mikeymikec

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article said:
At the time, her private school’s teachers were mostly white people who would often discuss the satanic nature of Apache traditions. When Caitlyn was in fifth grade, she was given an F on an art project for drawing the White Mountain Apache crest and including an eagle feather. An “A” student, she was devastated to be chastised this way. As Caitlyn remembers it, her teacher smiled and explained that this kind of project wasn’t allowed because it denoted “pagan worship”. Her father was furious but the family couldn’t do anything about it. It was what the girl and her family expected from the white people who worked on the reservation.

But these expulsions felt different.

Sounds more of the same to me.
 

Greenman

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If you attend a private school run by a church, it's reasonable to assume that the church will push their particular doctrine. If you disagree with the views of the church, you shouldn't attend their school. Don't buy a Ford then complain that it's not a Chevy.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If you attend a private school run by a church, it's reasonable to assume that the church will push their particular doctrine. If you disagree with the views of the church, you shouldn't attend their school. Don't buy a Ford then complain that it's not a Chevy.
Awesome, where's the student sign up to change schools again?
 

Amused

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Evangelicals only want religious freedom for…



Wait for it…….





Christianity. They don’t have respect for other religions

And what they're too fucking stupid to realize is as soon as they get that, they'll start fighting each other over sectarianism.

NONE of them have studied European history and the very foundations for the religious freedom we have in the US.

They have this fantasy that they're oppressed now, wait until Christianity is mandated and they aren't the right sect.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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And what they're too fucking stupid to realize is as soon as they get that, they'll start fighting each other over sectarianism.

NONE of them have studied European history and the very foundations for the religious freedom we have in the US.

They have this fantasy that they're oppressed now, wait until Christianity is mandated and they aren't the right sect.
I'd rather just save us all some time and shove them in the ocean now.
 
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Fenixgoon

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And what they're too fucking stupid to realize is as soon as they get that, they'll start fighting each other over sectarianism.

NONE of them have studied European history and the very foundations for the religious freedom we have in the US.

They have this fantasy that they're oppressed now, wait until Christianity is mandated and they aren't the right sect.
Reminds me of this joke, apparently by Emo Philips
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over."
 

Brovane

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Seems the Public Schools need to do better at providing a education for the Indigenous so they will not need to attend Christian Schools.

Apache families who send their children to the East Fork Lutheran school face a complicated choice. Some families do so because students in Christian schools are seen as more successful than those attending the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) schools down the road. Others simply value a Christian education, and feel that their children might get on the “right path” with that background.
 
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Greenman

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Awesome, where's the student sign up to change schools again?
I assume the state or the tribe provides a public school, though I have no certain knowledge of that. Regardless, it still comes down to a personal choice. If you don't like the private institution you're dealing with then stop dealing with them. It's that simple.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I assume the state or the tribe provides a public school, though I have no certain knowledge of that. Regardless, it still comes down to a personal choice. If you don't like the private institution you're dealing with then stop dealing with them. It's that simple.
Right, personal choice of the child correct?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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The Christian School might be the best of several bad choices when you consider between a Christian School and a Bureau of Indian Affairs School for a Indigenous family.
My point was, it was stated that if one doesn't wish to be indoctrinated by a Christian school, 'they can just git out'. My question was where the student was supposed to go to change their school.

Spoiler: they don't get a choice in the matter.
 

APU_Fusion

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See above. The child doesn't usually have a say in whether they attend the church's school or not, so you've presented a false choice.
Greenman is all about false choices. I wonder if old Green,an would say the same when two “Christian” kids are kicked out of Mohammed School or would he cry about “religious freedom” and the evil of Muslims not allowing children who attend their school their personal belief system.

Punish the children is the republican way after all and Jesus is a great club to use on them.
 

vi edit

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If you attend a private school run by a church, it's reasonable to assume that the church will push their particular doctrine. If you disagree with the views of the church, you shouldn't attend their school. Don't buy a Ford then complain that it's not a Chevy.

Cool. So what if I go to a public school to get away from that shit and then the state turns around and forces it down my throat like what is happening in Louisiana with 10 commandments?
 
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kage69

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Cool. So what if I go to a public school to get away from that shit and then the state turns around and forces it down my throat like what is happening in Louisiana with 10 commandments?


Right?

If only there was some kind of constitutional guideline that prohibited the state from endorsing a specific religion. It's almost like we need some kind of wall between church and state, in this case to prevent religious special interests from dictating how people raise and educate their children.

Kudos to Oklahoma by the way, whose Supreme Court promptly shut down the first religious private school funded by public money. Nice to see some red states still have judiciaries that work correctly, that aren't infected by christofascist cancer.

Religulous indoctrination has no place in public school, save that for church and send your own children if you must. The only 10 guidelines that should be prominently displayed in public schools is The Bill of Rights. Period.
 
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Brovane

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My point was, it was stated that if one doesn't wish to be indoctrinated by a Christian school, 'they can just git out'. My question was where the student was supposed to go to change their school.

Spoiler: they don't get a choice in the matter.

From reading the article they have a choice as to what school they attend. It is just the choices suck.

Apache families who send their children to the East Fork Lutheran school face a complicated choice. Some families do so because students in Christian schools are seen as more successful than those attending the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) schools down the road. Others simply value a Christian education, and feel that their children might get on the “right path” with that background.
 

kage69

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Your right to not get punched in the face doesn't apply because I gave you the choice of receiving a knee or an elbow.


Why are you upset? You had a choice.
 
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