I didn't see a yes or no in there.
Hm, what's the word for this?Well that's cryptic enough.
Ironic.
Well that's cryptic enough. Sounds like there may have been some shenanigans in that deal.
What's a "fair share" when it comes to taxes is a much debated thing. She didn't say that I'm overpaying, she said I'm paying a lot. I didn't pursue the matter and ask what the basis for her comment was. I let it pass.I didn't see a yes or no in there. Your property tax base was established when you bought your house, or in 1976, and can go up 2% a year since than. How could a real estate agent decide you were over paying?
Sorry I touched a nerve, but your responses seemed more than a little evasive. Of course being a fair minded liberal fellow you went straight to the personal attic. An expected response.What's a "fair share" when it comes to taxes is a much debated thing. She didn't say that I'm overpaying, she said I'm paying a lot. I didn't pursue the matter and ask what the basis for her comment was. I let it pass.
You enjoy a seriously awful reputation on this forum. I won't stand for you trying to tear mine down. WTF are you insinuating? Shenanigans?! Fuck you...
I mean it is an unfair system and it favors long term incumbent homeowners who are most likely boomers. Is this even in question?Sorry I touched a nerve, but your responses seemed more than a little evasive. Of course being a fair minded liberal fellow you went straight to the personal attic. An expected response.
You're right in that I do enjoy an awful reputation here, which is far less important than what brand of plastic wrap I use. So, back on topic, would you be willing to give up your prop 13 tax advantages? It's a simple yes/no question. Most folks here seem to think it's an unfair system that favors those hated boomers that ruined the world and took all the good stuff for themselves.
What would be the negative consequences if zoning laws were designed at universities using a broad range of scientific fields as inputs and building permits were limited to projects built with some fixed percentage of profit and after being purchased could only be sold at that same price. The zoning laws would naturally have to be done in a way that builders would not be able to build only massive homes at massive costs to inflate that 10%. Maybe property taxes could be offset for older, poorer citizens via participation in civic organizations, maybe city beautification, tutoring at local schools, food banks stocked by community gardens, organizing concerts and fairs etc. And since the property value would not changeI mean it is an unfair system and it favors long term incumbent homeowners who are most likely boomers. Is this even in question?
It should be noted that if prop 13 were repealed and you held property tax revenue neutral a lot of homeowners would see their property taxes go down. After all, everyone else has to pay more to make up for the people prop 13 is giving special treatment to.
You would need a lottery to select who gets to buy whatever home is up for sale.What would be the negative consequences if zoning laws were designed at universities using a broad range of scientific fields as inputs and building permits were limited to projects built with some fixed percentage of profit and after being purchased could only be sold at that same price. The zoning laws would naturally have to be done in a way that builders would not be able to build only massive homes at massive costs to inflate that 10%. Maybe property taxes could be offset for older, poorer citizens via participation in civic organizations, maybe city beautification, tutoring at local schools, food banks stocked by community gardens, organizing concerts and fairs etc. And since the property value would not change
The simple reality is that almost two thirds of voters said yes to prop 13. It also benefits everyone whos home appreciates.I mean it is an unfair system and it favors long term incumbent homeowners who are most likely boomers. Is this even in question?
It should be noted that if prop 13 were repealed and you held property tax revenue neutral a lot of homeowners would see their property taxes go down. After all, everyone else has to pay more to make up for the people prop 13 is giving special treatment to.
I mean I’m aware it was passed, it’s just a terrible idea. Just look at the damage it’s caused.The simple reality is that almost two thirds of voters said yes to prop 13. It also benefits everyone whos home appreciates.
Why would that be fair? Taxing based on the value of the property makes by far the most sense. Why should someone in a $10 million dollar condo pay less than someone living in the middle of the desert in a house?If you actually want it fair then property tax should be based on the square footage of the house and the square footage of the lot. That would be a fair tax, and it would push toward smaller lots and smaller homes.
Just because I don't explain everything about myself here does not mean I am evasive, cryptic or that I have engaged in shady activities. And your question does not deserve an answer. It's not a matter of volition if I'm subject to Prop. 13 tax advantages (TBH, I don't believe I am benefitted by Prop. 13). It's not up to me. Game someone else, and your apology does not come off as sincere in the least. You owe me a real one but I don't think you are capable of it. Like I said, bug off.Sorry I touched a nerve, but your responses seemed more than a little evasive. Of course being a fair minded liberal fellow you went straight to the personal attic. An expected response.
You're right in that I do enjoy an awful reputation here, which is far less important than what brand of plastic wrap I use. So, back on topic, would you be willing to give up your prop 13 tax advantages? It's a simple yes/no question. Most folks here seem to think it's an unfair system that favors those hated boomers that ruined the world and took all the good stuff for themselves.
The simple reality is that almost two thirds of voters said yes to prop 13.
Of course my apology wasn't sincere, you decided to be offended to avoid answering a simple question. I'll go ahead and answer it for you. No, you're not willing to give up the tax advantage you absolutely do have to make the system more "fair". So while you're contemptuous of all the horrible things those red states do, when it's your state, it's a dollar deep.Just because I don't explain everything about myself here does not mean I am evasive, cryptic or that I have engaged in shady activities. And your question does not deserve an answer. It's not a matter of volition if I'm subject to Prop. 13 tax advantages (TBH, I don't believe I am benefitted by Prop. 13). It's not up to me. Game someone else, and your apology does not come off as sincere in the least. You owe me a real one but I don't think you are capable of it. Like I said, bug off.
Spit roll? You lost me, I'll look it up.Spit roll came within 2% of passing in 2020. There is appetite for change.
Spit roll? You lost me, I'll look it up.
Thanks
No matter the building costs a builder would be guaranteed 10% profit. I think that new homes in areas where housing costs a great deal new planned cities would be financially attractive to live in. You would think that 10% above cost to build properties would create a huge demand, as you say, but a boom in construction and heavy competition among suppliers of building materials. Things might start out very limited in builds but accelerate rapidly due to demand. Who wouldn't want to live in a planned city like that. Older people might also be tempted to move from high demand areas to more community oriented ones in not so job competitive areas. Of course the real estate industry would probably hate the idea. Every sale would just amount to paying the original building cost and transferring title. No more real estate speculators who would also be up in arms.You would need a lottery to select who gets to buy whatever home is up for sale.
How would you address rising construction costs? The homes in a ten year old tract would be cheaper than the exact same homes in a brand new tract, so they would have lower tax rates as well.
It's because more people legitimately do like Trump it's just the idiots that believe everything they watch on television.....think about it all takes is a camera and a news reporter to start the game behind it all cuz then if you see enuf of the news saying all that smack and trying to shame anyone's name isn't hard and yes while some people like prob thinks otherwise and Trump is really hated so....when it seems to me proof is in the pudding if it's still red states winning majority.......and come on really......Biden? Mr. Doesn't whose hand he shaking always looking like he just rolled out of coffin sputtering blah blah blah about abortion and women rites as usual as the vice pres stand behind and claps like he is just not ready to pounce on the child being held to close for him to not be able to help himself from weird to or around children I that's our pres....I think people like Trump cuz he has testicle and don't really take crap that's why I think he has more people than really do support him cause even if they hate him I feel safer with him as pres than weirdo old man rigamortis....I mean is he really alive and breathing or what is that thingI live in a town where almost nobody is registered Republican, in an extremely blue state (CA). I pay attention to the news. TFG is such a POS it's hard for me to understand why anybody would vote for him. The R party has sold its soul. They are vile, will do utterly unconscionable things for money and power. Biden's a decent man with decades of experience in service to his country.
How can there be all these red states? Why are there even swing states? It boggles my mind.
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Does Trump attempting a coup and the end of American democracy bother you at all?It's because more people legitimately do like Trump it's just the idiots that believe everything they watch on television.....think about it all takes is a camera and a news reporter to start the game behind it all cuz then if you see enuf of the news saying all that smack and trying to shame anyone's name isn't hard and yes while some people like prob thinks otherwise and Trump is really hated so....when it seems to me proof is in the pudding if it's still red states winning majority.......and come on really......Biden? Mr. Doesn't whose hand he shaking always looking like he just rolled out of coffin sputtering blah blah blah about abortion and women rites as usual as the vice pres stand behind and claps like he is just not ready to pounce on the child being held to close for him to not be able to help himself from weird to or around children I that's our pres....I think people like Trump cuz he has testicle and don't really take crap that's why I think he has more people than really do support him cause even if they hate him I feel safer with him as pres than weirdo old man rigamortis....I mean is he really alive and breathing or what is that thing
Which LLM took the piss on this post?It's because more people legitimately do like Trump it's just the idiots that believe everything they watch on television.....think about it all takes is a camera and a news reporter to start the game behind it all cuz then if you see enuf of the news saying all that smack and trying to shame anyone's name isn't hard and yes while some people like prob thinks otherwise and Trump is really hated so....when it seems to me proof is in the pudding if it's still red states winning majority.......and come on really......Biden? Mr. Doesn't whose hand he shaking always looking like he just rolled out of coffin sputtering blah blah blah about abortion and women rites as usual as the vice pres stand behind and claps like he is just not ready to pounce on the child being held to close for him to not be able to help himself from weird to or around children I that's our pres....I think people like Trump cuz he has testicle and don't really take crap that's why I think he has more people than really do support him cause even if they hate him I feel safer with him as pres than weirdo old man rigamortis....I mean is he really alive and breathing or what is that thing
ChatGPT, write an inane rant about how Donald Trump is tough and totally cool and about how Biden is old. Make sure the grammar sucks and sounds like a non-native speaker, there are no complete sentences or capitalizations, and misspellings at least every three wordsWhich LLM took the piss on this post?
Got it. I don't recall all the details of that one, I'll still have to look into it.It would have undone Prop 13 for commercial land owners.
Be nice, his grammar and punctuation are worse than mine. That moves me up a notch.Well, I'm excited to see what other scintillating insights this new member has to offer. @Jeremiah thomson , how do you feel about Boomer Esiason?
Just because I don't explain everything about myself here does not mean I am evasive, cryptic or that I have engaged in shady activities. And your question does not deserve an answer. It's not a matter of volition if I'm subject to Prop. 13 tax advantages (TBH, I don't believe I am benefitted by Prop. 13). It's not up to me. Game someone else, and your apology does not come off as sincere in the least. You owe me a real one but I don't think you are capable of it. Like I said, bug off.
I still find it funny that @Greenman is posting here but claims he has no time to figure out what, if any evidence he would accept related to if Trump wants to hurt people.Might I add that it's rich that @Greenman is requesting an explanation when he constantly makes stupid and bigoted comments, spreads lies, and then dodges the request for an explanation.