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Zorba

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Her polling is worse v Trump every time it’s been tested. And there is no way she’s passed up for the nomination.
I know, but right now the argument is basically "yeah, Biden is old but if something happens we have Kamala." So might as well get her to the top of the ticket so at least we have someone that debate a bit.
 

gothuevos

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Biden getting absolutely wrecked on Twitter, up and down, even by normie Dems who are demanding he step down tomorrow lol.

And he's only going to look worse with each passing month.
 

kage69

Lifer
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That started off pretty bad, gotta say. Trump's comfort with lying through his teeth definitely paid off tonight. No drugs fell out of his nose, good for him.


I still say an old honest guy with a good record beats an old traitor, felon and rapist with a history of impeachment and insurrection. Grats to Trump on normalizing criminal behavior and treason btw, I can't believe there are people who still think this is a choice. Thank goodness for fed up GenZ/millennials and the penchant for magats to shoot themselves in the dick.
 
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gothuevos

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I know, but right now the argument is basically "yeah, Biden is old but if something happens we have Kamala." So might as well get her to the top of the ticket so at least we have someone that debate a bit.

That ship has sailed. The move was for Biden to not run again AT ALL, or at least replace Kamala with someone new since they would be highly likely to have to take over anyway.

Does Biden even make it to November? Holy cow he looks awful. Where is his family to step in?
 

Lanyap

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So, who could/would replace Biden for the election and how could the transition be made successfully.
 

gothuevos

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So, who could/would replace Biden for the election and how could the transition be made successfully.
I'm not sure but you have to take a chance at this point. And absolutely not Kamala.

This was a disaster. Biden is cooked.

 

K1052

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I know, but right now the argument is basically "yeah, Biden is old but if something happens we have Kamala." So might as well get her to the top of the ticket so at least we have someone that debate a bit.

There is going to be a VP debate after Trump eventually picks one.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Why the fuck does no one call Trump out for hiring illegals every time he goes on one of his migration rants? He doesn't want to stop illegal immigration. He just wants to drum up hate against brown people.
 

eelw

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The panel of a dozen undecided voters, 6 plan to vote Biden. One undecided. Yes they thought the performance was bad. But just that confirmation the orange monkey is horrible is enough. The other 5, they are on the side that the prosecutions is a ploy to stop the orange monkey. So truly not undecided voters.
 

njdevilsfan87

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I'm not really sure what worries me more: the choices we have, or the fact that nobody seems to care enough so that we have better choices?
 

Zorba

Lifer
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So, who could/would replace Biden for the election and how could the transition be made successfully.
That's the hard part. I think the easiest option is obviously Kamala. The best option is likely Gretchen Whitmer. No Newsome.

Kamala could likely slip right in, anyone else I think it would be a loud and distracting debate until an open convention (which is scheduled late).
 

blankslate

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I'm not really sure what worries me more: the choices we have, or the fact that nobody seems to care enough so that we have better choices?
We had better choices...

but we really didn't because the DNC chose.




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This is not a far left Democratic Congressmember. the fact that most people probably haven't t heard of him likely means he's just a middle of the road (more or less) member who doesn't really rock the boat or garner the criticisms from the more lefty newer members that some more famous center left lawmakers have.

Notice what he is saying after about the 3 minute mark.

The Young Turks who have been a long running Youtube only political channel go in depth on this
and give lie to the people who say that it was that Bernie simply lost.
YOu know who I am talking about.
 
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Leeea

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I have had some time to think about it.


Trump hurt himself. He showed everyone he is still Trump. Still the angry old man that did January 6th with no regrets. That this is his vengeance tour. That all the chaos of his last presidency was on display. No changes, no regrets.
 

gothuevos

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That's the hard part. I think the easiest option is obviously Kamala. The best option is likely Gretchen Whitmer. No Newsome.

Kamala could likely slip right in, anyone else I think it would be a loud and distracting debate until an open convention (which is scheduled late).

Kamala is probably the only person in America more unpopular than both Trump and Biden.

I would go with Jared Polis or Josh Shapiro and take my shot.

Biden is a 100% L.
 

eelw

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I have had some time to think about it.


Trump hurt himself. He showed everyone he is still Trump. Still the angry old man that did January 6th with no regrets. That this is his vengeance tour. That all the chaos of his last presidency was on display. No changes, no regrets.
Exactly. This doom and gloom is uncalled for. The orange monkey didn’t suddenly sway huge swaths of voters to change sides. Yes confirmation that most don’t want either. But it’s still clear which choice is the only sane one to make.
 
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