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balloonshark

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Jun 5, 2008
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Funny how I don't see calls for Mitch McConnell to bow out when he is stuck in a reboot loop. Biden should step down when the felon and rapist steps aside.

AOC turns 35 in October. I would love to see her move a tad center on certain issues and run with VP Katie Porter. That would be my dream team.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I'm really baffled by the reaction on here to the debate. They had it on at work, and I was surprised at how vocal people were about it. Even the normally pro-Republican people, who might've been the most vocal, had similar response. Which basically was "what in the actual fuck is wrong with Turmp?!?" Not that anyone was pro-Biden, but I didn't see anyone that was worried with regards to him in the debate.

It took like 2 questions before people were like "why can't Turmp answer a simple question?" They actually shut it off because no one could stand listening to Turmp's insane whining even. People were not having it. This is in Arizona too, but him going on lunatic rants about the border and immigrants while refusing to answer the actual questions was pissing people off.

I don't know, maybe its a small anecdote but I thought it was pretty telling. Americans are frustrated, but they saw Turmp not only doesn't have answers, he doesn't even fucking care about the things they care about, he's focused on himself and stupid made up shit that no one even knows what he's talking about, while just spouting obvious bullshit and lies about how he made anything better.
As I've said, I still think Biden can win. Trump looks like an ididot.

But it's just embarrassing what the Dems put up against Trump. It was embarrassing to be a Dem last night. All you had to do was put some who was just competent in that role and Trump would have been dismantled, as we saw by Trump's performance, the election would be over practically already. The sound bytes would have written themselves. The Dems could and should be owning this election, as is evidenced by last night, instead, they are giving us this shit show of a guy who can barely put a sentence together on the fly, when it's not a prepared speech. Just proves how weak we all see him as already, coddled from the media. It's insulting that this is the effort the Dems put forth. Instead we have to bite our nails because Biden is a lost old man. It was elder abuse last night. On both sides.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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30%, so plausible but not probable.

Whitmer to replace. She's got executive experience, can win a swing state, can connect with a mid-western electorate, and is a white female for that sweet sweet suburban female vote.

She's not gonna do it cause she's sitting happy where she is and wouldn't want to vacate for this DNC shit show but hey a guy can dream.
My thoughts exactly. The only way it could work is if it was basically agreed upon behind the scenes before he step aside.
 
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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Funny how I don't see calls for Mitch McConnell to bow out when he is stuck in a reboot loop. Biden should step down when the felon and rapist steps aside.

AOC turns 35 in October. I would love to see her move a tad center on certain issues and run with VP Katie Porter. That would be my dream team.
I personally don't want Mitch to win a race, so fuck him. People are freaking out about Biden because we are so concerned about him losing a very winnable election to the worst POS to ever be nominated. Trump should've been thrown to the curb long ago, but insecure racists love him.
 
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BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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See -- here's something the public may miss. This is where the mythical deep-state makes a choice of a faltering candidate less catastrophic. And, of course, he's got Kamala. I have more confidence in her than some Democrats I know. The Republicans hate her, because she's black and a woman.

There really is no choice in this election, except for the moral choice. I'd vote for blood-hound or a chimp before I'd elect a GOP candidate and especially a criminal like Trump.

Did you see what the EFFing Supreme court did today? I'm ashamed and disgusted.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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As I've said, I still think Biden can win. Trump looks like an ididot.

But it's just embarrassing what the Dems put up against Trump. It was embarrassing to be a Dem last night. All you had to do was put some who was just competent in that role and Trump would have been dismantled, as we saw by Trump's performance, the election would be over practically already. The sound bytes would have written themselves. The Dems could and should be owning this election, as is evidenced by last night, instead, they are giving us this shit show of a guy who can barely put a sentence together on the fly, when it's not a prepared speech. Just proves how weak we all see him as already, coddled from the media. It's insulting that this is the effort the Dems put forth. Instead we have to bite our nails because Biden is a lost old man. It was elder abuse last night. On both sides.

"Elder abuse". That is just so apropos. I'm gun'na claim that the next time the wifey orders me to clean out the attic and the garage and then warn her I'm about to press charges on her cutie bootie for abusing me that way. Of course, I'll pay the price much worse than what I gave but that's just too good to go to waste.

edit - grammar
 
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Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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As I've said, I still think Biden can win. Trump looks like an ididot.

But it's just embarrassing what the Dems put up against Trump. It was embarrassing to be a Dem last night. All you had to do was put some who was just competent in that role and Trump would have been dismantled, as we saw by Trump's performance, the election would be over practically already. The sound bytes would have written themselves. The Dems could and should be owning this election, as is evidenced by last night, instead, they are giving us this shit show of a guy who can barely put a sentence together on the fly, when it's not a prepared speech. Just proves how weak we all see him as already, coddled from the media. It's insulting that this is the effort the Dems put forth. Instead we have to bite our nails because Biden is a lost old man. It was elder abuse last night. On both sides.
God damn you and God damn the brain dead American people including Biden's political advisors and so many party members. Why the fuck was Biden up there on that stage debating with a criminally convicted psychopath. It's because all you fuckers think he needs to prove he's not senile because he makes language gaffs so ha needs to go up on a stage and perform next to a monkey to prove he can debate. Who the fuck cares if he can't debate. He has a speech problem of some kind and the more people make an issue of it like he's stupid or defective some how the worse the fear of showing it publicly, the harder it becomes to hide.

And you fuckers play right into it. He's an embarrassment. He's senile, he couldn't even look Presidential for a 2 hour debate. Fuck you! You and those who got him up there to prove the meaningless were living out a death wish. Biden should never appear on any stage with that worthless goon. Why in the fuck was he debating a felon and a sexual assaulter. Debate skills are absolutely meaningless and the undecideds who need convincing not to vote for Trump should go fuck themselves and so should every Democrat who thought he should lack the dignity to have such a debate. Biden is a master and profoundly experienced politician who can get things done

Sorry to go MrSquished on you. I feel better enough now to apologize.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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speaking of Kamala Harris(?) , isn't it damming that they want anyone but her to replace him

If the Repubs are smart, they'll just run on 'a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala' since the Dems have no balls and gave us this ticket. Also shows the Biden team fucked up the VP pick. They could have picked Whitmer, but she didn't check the minority DEI checkbox.

anyone comparing Biden to FDR btw, also fucking morons. what a stupid comparison. the guy who led us through WWII during multiple terms, to Biden. These people are fucking delusional.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Now this forum is pretty left leaning and as of right now its about 70% with a hell no zero vote and 30% with a non zero vote.

Now I realize I messed the poll up, should have been "do you think he should" or "is the powers that be will try to replace him" - or both and make it a double choice poll.

Anyway, 70-30, what do you think the sentiment is on average over 350m Americans?

Just saying.
 

dlerious

Golden Member
Mar 4, 2004
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I will be voting for Biden, if he is the candidate, and as always promote him on my social media and to anyone I meet, and I will be doorknocking in Pennsylvania this fall, as my group has planned.

But I lost a lot of respect for Biden, who refused to step down out of his fucking ego, the Democratic party who didn't make it right, and the Biden cultists who are still denying reality, considering they are the exact kind of Dems that got us into this mess.. I will change my registration to Independent after this election.
You'll get screwed even more. PA has closed elections, so you're stuck voting for who the Democrats and Republicans choose. 3rd party is looking more reasonable after that debate performance.
 
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mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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I'm really baffled by the reaction on here to the debate. They had it on at work, and I was surprised at how vocal people were about it. Even the normally pro-Republican people, who might've been the most vocal, had similar response. Which basically was "what in the actual fuck is wrong with Turmp?!?" Not that anyone was pro-Biden, but I didn't see anyone that was worried with regards to him in the debate.

It took like 2 questions before people were like "why can't Turmp answer a simple question?" They actually shut it off because no one could stand listening to Turmp's insane whining even. People were not having it. This is in Arizona too, but him going on lunatic rants about the border and immigrants while refusing to answer the actual questions was pissing people off.

I don't know, maybe its a small anecdote but I thought it was pretty telling. Americans are frustrated, but they saw Turmp not only doesn't have answers, he doesn't even fucking care about the things they care about, he's focused on himself and stupid made up shit that no one even knows what he's talking about, while just spouting obvious bullshit and lies about how he made anything better.

Is there a good highlights video of Trump's contributions to the debate? The one or two I've seen focused almost exclusively on Biden.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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It is amusing that a large portion of "the left" is clamoring, or at least seriously discussing, having their nominee drop out because of poor debate performance while no one on the right is doing similar over 34 felony convictions, 54 pending counts of indictment, adjudicated rapist, adjudicated fraudster, etc. etc.

Kind of telling, don't you think?
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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It is amusing that a large portion of "the left" is clamoring, or at least seriously discussing, having their nominee drop out because of poor debate performance while no one on the right is doing similar over 34 felony convictions, 54 pending counts of indictment, adjudicated rapist, adjudicated fraudster, etc. etc.

Kind of telling, don't you think?
Not something we dont already know, marching orders and propaganda networks is a well oiled machine on the right. The left is a spectrum and the right had two nuances gop and trump and now there is only trump.

You probably dont want the left to be hooked on a coolaid drop like the right is.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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You'll get screwed even more. PA has closed elections, so you're stuck voting for who the Democrats and Republicans choose. 3rd party is looking more reasonable after that debate performance.
Voting third party in a first past the post system is the textbook definition of unreasonable. There is no more or less reasonable here. It's 100% unreasonable no matter what happens.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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God damn you and God damn the brain dead American people including Biden's political advisors and so many party members. Why the fuck was Biden up there on that stage debating with a criminally convicted psychopath. It's because all you fuckers think he needs to prove he's not senile because he makes language gaffs so ha needs to go up on a stage and perform next to a monkey to prove he can debate. Who the fuck cares if he can't debate. He has a speech problem of some kind and the more people make an issue of it like he's stupid or defective some how the worse the fear of showing it publicly, the harder it becomes to hide.

And you fuckers play right into it. He's an embarrassment. He's senile, he couldn't even look Presidential for a 2 hour debate. Fuck you! You and those who got him up there to prove the meaningless were living out a death wish. Biden should never appear on any stage with that worthless goon. Why in the fuck was he debating a felon and a sexual assaulter. Debate skills are absolutely meaningless and the undecideds who need convincing not to vote for Trump should go fuck themselves and so should every Democrat who thought he should lack the dignity to have such a debate. Biden is a master and profoundly experienced politician who can get things done

Sorry to go MrSquished on you. I feel better enough now to apologize.
Pretty decent rant.
I can answer your first question. Biden debated Trump because he had to. If he didn't, Trump would spend the next four months shouting that Biden was afraid to debate him because he no longer had the mental acuity to do it. Since it looks like a tight race and neither team can afford to lose even a few votes, so Joe stepped up. They took the shot and missed, sometimes that happens.
 
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outriding

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Along with mayor Pete I would like to see Hickenlooper run…I heard an interview with him on NPR years ago and he was calm relatable well spoken.. and did what I think are good things as gov of CO
 

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K1052

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It should be noted that Harris is the only person who can access the funds the campaign has raised, some 215M cash on hand. Anybody else would be starting over four months out. Another reason why dreams about Whitmer, Newsom, etc are ever further fetched than they already are.
 
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eelw

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Will join in on the pile on. No it’s idiotic to vote 3rd party. Sure if the US didn’t have the stupid EC, then maybe. But a vote not for Biden is vote saying you are a fool.
 
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