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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Alright, official action: Trump is a threat to democracy, he tried to overthrow it once, and he's stated he intends to be a dictator (regardless of your opinion as to his seriousness, he stated it). It would be an official act of the executive branch to take action on that, and imprison Trump, his rival for the seat of presidency on the next election.

Do you think he should be immune from consequence for that action, yes or no.


Trump a threat to democracy is your opinion not a fact.

He tried to over throw it once. Is also an opinion.

As for him saying he will be a dictator on day one. You need to keep that in the context he stated it under.

Here I'll help you:

“He says, 'You're not going to be a dictator, are you?'
Trump Said: "No, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator.'”
 

APU_Fusion

Senior member
Dec 16, 2013
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No, I think the president should have to follow the law in both unofficial and official actions. There is a massive difference in wide leeway around official actions and straight up immunity. Immunity means the president can do whatever they want as long as it is at least tangentally official.
President declares national emergency and arrests every democratic or republican member. of congress for domestic terrorism and sends them to Guantanamo for interrogation. Official act, so they are immune. Period

Trump lawyers stated immunity would allow Trump to use military to assassinate political rivals and the Supreme Court just ruled that is ok.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Pcgeek11 bravely ran away,
When challenged to debate his position,
Pcgeek11 bravely ran away

Brave, brave pcgeek11


Can almost here the "Wot? I never! Lies!"

*fluting minstrels*

When fascism reared it's ugly head,
Gallantly he turned and fled...





Magat cult pisses on Constitution and rule of law, means to destroy both along with democracy itself. Veteren who served to uphold and protect them somehow rejoices, declares rational Americans upset over fantasies.

Wow pcgeek. You always find a way to make yourself a bigger piece of shit in my eyes. Do your buds from the service know you've become so partial to treason? Go fuck yourself.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Trump a threat to democracy is your opinion not a fact.

He tried to over throw it once. Is also an opinion.

As for him saying he will be a dictator on day one. You need to keep that in the context he stated it under.

Here I'll help you:

“He says, 'You're not going to be a dictator, are you?'
Trump Said: "No, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator.'”
So? Almost every circumstance where a President takes action on another person, country, whatever, it's always an 'opinion'. It may be backed up by data, just like it is with Trump, but it's still 'opinion'. If he's gonna be immune from criminality for dropping a flying ginsu on a terrorist, he has to be for gitmo'ing a presidential candidate, now.

Also, fuck you and your context. HE said the word dictator, that's enough for me to have him tried for treason.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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How does this effect Trump's cases? The Georgia call wasn't an official act but a call as a candidate. For the documents case, he wasn't President when he refused to turn the documents back over. I think it's the Jan 6 case that will get buried.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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You haven’t read the ruling then. The fact that it is an illegal order is IRRELEVANT. The president is absolutely immune when he issues illegal orders and not only is he immune, his motivation for issuing the order cannot be considered.

Everyone needs to focus on that part, especially the people who think this is much ado about nothing.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Trump a threat to democracy is your opinion not a fact.

He tried to over throw it once. Is also an opinion.

As for him saying he will be a dictator on day one. You need to keep that in the context he stated it under.

Here I'll help you:

“He says, 'You're not going to be a dictator, are you?'
Trump Said: "No, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator.'”
That is one of the dumbest things you’ve ever said here and holy shit is that saying something
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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You haven’t read the ruling then. The fact that it is an illegal order is IRRELEVANT. The president is absolutely immune when he issues illegal orders and not only is he immune, his motivation for issuing the order cannot be considered.
Yeah that specific rule for the test they have defined is a loophole a mile wide.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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How does this effect Trump's cases? The Georgia call wasn't an official act but a call as a candidate. For the documents case, he wasn't President when he refused to turn the documents back over. I think it's the Jan 6 case that will get buried.
It doesn’t affect the documents case, it likely ends the federal 1/6 case and may end the Georgia one.
 
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eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
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How does this effect Trump's cases? The Georgia call wasn't an official act but a call as a candidate. For the documents case, he wasn't President when he refused to turn the documents back over. I think it's the Jan 6 case that will get buried.
Legal pundits saying he’ll say it was an official act that originally gave him access to those documents that trumps the obstruction
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Trump a threat to democracy is your opinion not a fact.

He tried to over throw it once. Is also an opinion.

As for him saying he will be a dictator on day one. You need to keep that in the context he stated it under.

Here I'll help you:

“He says, 'You're not going to be a dictator, are you?'
Trump Said: "No, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border, and we're drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I'm not a dictator.'”
you know this doesn't make it better, right?
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I swear to FSM these stupid fucks would have defended every step Hitler took, right up until their neighbor got gutted on their front lawn by SA troops.
You think they'd stop then? Or just waffle about how they don't agree with it, but it was in accordance with the rule of law as interpreted by the court, so it's a real shame, but what can you do? Keep it in mind next election season, gang!
 
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