Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

yottabit · Jul 6, 2024

Guys the only polls that matter are the Trump v Biden polls. 86 or 100% of people can be “concerned” about Bidens age or “want” a different candidate

The ways these polls are phrased suck. Of course most people are concerned about his age, but is that concern to the point they won’t vote for him ? That’s the question and the key distinction here

Susan Collins is “concerned” about a lot of things but that hasn’t exactly influenced her voting record

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

MrSquished said:
except I never did anything of the sort. Feel free to quote what I said and in response to what. Good luck.

I quoted the statements of yours I was addressing. If you have a problem with one of them you can always specify which, possibly submit a correction or clarification of your own, help me out a lil.

You said someone was wrong. I disagreed and detailed why they're not. You're still in the initial outrage phase I think, sounds like post #807 may have gone over your head.

yottabit · Jul 6, 2024

I feel like everyone keeps forgetting Biden is the incumbent. The election and his approval rating are probably going to come down to however the stock market and jobs reports are doing the week or two before the election, barring any new major catastrophes (either self inflicted or due to global wars/instability)

dank69 · Jul 6, 2024

pcgeek11 said:
I watched the entire debate on CNN and didn't see Trump or Biden yelling with the microphones off or on. Maybe I missed it, but I don't think so.

Did anyone else see anyone yelling with the Mic off?

I watched exactly zero seconds of the debate, but know enough about debates to know they likely showed mostly tight shots of each candidate when they were speaking, which means when Biden was speaking you likely couldn't see Trump during most of it. Nobody is surprised you can't think this through for yourself.

Puffnstuff · Jul 6, 2024

Looks like the D's are doing weekend at Bernie's special 4 year edition. May as well make the campaign theme song Joe Diffie's - Prop me up beside the jukebox (if I die).

IronWing · Jul 6, 2024

Puffnstuff said:
Looks like the D's are doing weekend at Bernie's special 4 year edition. May as well make the campaign theme song Joe Diffie's - Prop me up beside the jukebox (if I die).

The Republicans are using The Future Belongs to Me.

MrSquished · Jul 6, 2024

kage69 said:
I quoted the statements of yours I was addressing. If you have a problem with one of them you can always specify which, possibly submit a correction or clarification of your own, help me out a lil.

You said someone was wrong. I disagreed and detailed why they're not. You're still in the initial outrage phase I think, sounds like post #807 may have gone over your head.

Listen man if you can't provide the evidence, bless your heart. Because I never ever said we should consider Republican criticism when it comes to our nominee.

I don't appreciate you making shit up and then refusing to provide my statements that said what you said they said.

Extremely dishonest.

brycejones · Jul 6, 2024

Irony

Moonbeam · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Was there ever any doubt who that would be? If he was in a wheel chair drooling on his chest he'd still be the democrat candidate and you'd still vote for him.

Are you saying you wouldn't vote for a man drooling in his wheelchair over Donald Trump? And why would you create such a worst case scenario? I don't think Biden is that far along in dotage.

And can you imagine the performance anxiety you might feel if you know you stutter and have trouble pulling up words with facility and ease and the fate of your country hinges on how well you perform in a debate.

But never mind, I know that conservatives can only focus on ego driven fears, the horror of having a dotard liberal loose in the White House holding all the levers of power when they can only feel safe if with their Stockholm Syndrome if that power is in the hands of an abuser. What upsets me more, however, and owing to my own stupidity, is that so many liberals took it on themselves to decide if Biden should run or not. It's just another kind of shit show when those who are driven by hate of their abusers try to run the show. They create what they fear, a candidate they scar so bad his chances fall to the floor.

As you said, as long as Biden has functional capacity to decide he's fit to run it could never have been anybody else but him.

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

Joe's "Only if the Lord Almighty tells me..." was cringeworthy for me though, gotta say.

Anytime someone invokes sky fairy nonsense to stifle discussion, especially with something this important, I feel the need to exercise my middle finger. See, this is why you want secular humanists in office to begin with.

Biden putting his foot down over dropping out should be accompanied with an offensive demonstration. If Joe wants everyone to focus on 'more pressing matters,' he could help facilitate this by proving he's still got some Dark Brandon under the hood. Get your rest, drink that Celsius, then give that bloated orange fuck some of that SOTU energy. Along with the previously mentioned drug test challenge, of course.

Keep bringing up how Trump is scared of drug tests. "C'mon Donald, tell America why your drug test results are as off limits as those Epstein files? Let me guess; they're being audited."

Moonbeam · Jul 6, 2024

MrSquished said:
Listen man if you can't provide the evidence, bless your heart. Because I never ever said we should consider Republican criticism when it comes to our nominee.

I don't appreciate you making shit up and then refusing to provide my statements that said what you said they said.

Extremely dishonest.

You two got into this, in my opinion over two valid points. Who the candidate is does matter but no matter who it is the Republicans will find a way to convince voters that person is unfit. The Democrats picked Biden and Biden stumbled. Your bitching and moaning about it only makes it worse, in my opinion. You are right that who the candidate is matters. Where your judgment is irrational, emotional and ego driven, in my opinion, is that you somehow feel you should be in charge of who the best candidate is when that was a choice that had already been made. Only Biden could make that decision. In my opinion, people like you should have kept their traps shut until the decision was known. You create what you fear.

Greenman · Jul 6, 2024

Moonbeam said:
Are you saying you wouldn't vote for a man drooling in his wheelchair over Donald Trump? And why would you create such a worst case scenario? I don't think Biden is that far along in dotage.

And can you imagine the performance anxiety you might feel if you know you stutter and have trouble pulling up words with facility and ease and the fate of your country hinges on how well you perform in a debate.

But never mind, I know that conservatives can only focus on ego driven fears, the horror of having a dotard liberal loose in the White House holding all the levers of power when they can only feel safe if with their Stockholm Syndrome if that power is in the hands of an abuser. What upsets me more, however, and owing to my own stupidity, is that so many liberals took it on themselves to decide if Biden should run or not. It's just another kind of shit show when those who are driven by hate of their abusers try to run the show. They create what they fear, a candidate they scar so bad his chances fall to the floor.

As you said, as long as Biden has functional capacity to decide he's fit to run it could never have been anybody else but him.

Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

[DHT]Osiris · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

There's been many people over many centuries of human existence that have uttered as such, only to be surprised soon after. Don't get overconfident in your current life, it can change quickly.

brycejones · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

Man you really fucking hate democracy.

Moonbeam · Jul 6, 2024

kage69 said:
Joe's "Only if the Good Lord tells me..." was cringeworthy for me though, gotta say.

Anytime someone invokes sky fairy nonsense to stifle discussion, especially with something this important, I feel the need to exercise my middle finger. See, this is why you want secular humanists in office to begin with.

Biden putting his foot down over dropping out should be accompanied with an offensive demonstration. If Joe wants to everyone to focus on 'more pressing matters,' he could help facilitate this by proving he's still got some Dark Brandon under the hood. Get your rest, drink that Celsius, then give that bloated orange fuck some of that SOTU energy. Along with the previously mentioned drug test challenge, of course.

Keep bringing up how Trump is scared of drug tests. "C'mon Donald, tell America why are your drug test results as off limits as those Epstein files? Let me guess; they're being audited."

In my opinion Biden should inform the American people to get ready for martial law because if they vote for Trump and he wins he's going to rot in jail and anybody rioting over it will be shot. And he should further announce that a Vote a vote for Trump will give you the dictatorship you desire. If you want a peaceful future vote for me and I will simply remove 5 members of the Supreme Court and replace them with objective judges who will reverse all the courts recent absurd decisions. We are not turning over the reigns of power to a criminal psychopath, period or allow anybody at all to try to facilitate it.

Moonbeam · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

Of course the world will go on. Why do you mention that? Isn't the point how a world under Biden compared to a world under Trump reduced to local US size will still go on. The only question of relevance is which will be better and which worse. What does it matter that things will go on if in one case what will go on will be a catastrophe compared to the alternative. The problem you are having, in my opinion, is that you are projecting. Conservatives more than liberals are driven by fear. That's a peer review scientific fact and a fact conservatives more than liberals can't face. What your fear won't allow you to face is that a vote for Trump is in reality a vote for catastrophe. The evidence for liberals who are better equipped to face hard facts is profound, overwhelming and undeniable. Of course it's terrifying and many a liberal will become conservative under the strain, but it remains an obvious fact and liberals can see it. I know that because liberals do not share all areas of moral concerns that conservatives feel are important, but that does not make them immoral. Conservative carry a survival benefit that makes them react without thinking, but where moral values must be weighed in complex future predicting situations you want to go with liberal judgment.

The ability to predict the future without turning away when ideas get scary is a recent adaptation to the human survival tool box. Some can do it better than others. In a complex world we need them to lead. They may be slow to jump out of the frying pan, but they also won't jump into as many fires. I am really neither liberal or conservative as I believe I see the benefits and the flaws of both as opposite sides of the same coin.

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

MrSquished said:
Listen man if you can't provide the evidence, bless your heart. Because I never ever said we should consider Republican criticism when it comes to our nominee.

I don't appreciate you making shit up and then refusing to provide my statements that said what you said they said.

Extremely dishonest.

I told you I disagreed with you calling a concept insane, and spelled out why. Nothing dishonest about it.

I will admit to not fully understanding why someone's belief of "doesn't matter who OUR candidate is" causes you to believe it's now impossible "to fight the entities like the Supreme Court and defeat Trump will work with the(sic) attitude." As I stated earlier, these are insane times full of insane occurrences. I suppose I fail to see how your inability to handle the realities of a 2 party system riddled with extremism counts as someone else being insane, to put it bluntly.

Please, if you want, spend some time on providing statements elaborating on the connection of the two quotes from you above in bold. Is it dishonest of me to ask you for the perspective I don't understand?

IronWing · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

Don't worry everybody. Electing a fascist traitor to an office that was just granted immense unconstitutional powers by a fascist Supreme Court will work out fine.

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

Moonbeam said:
In my opinion Biden should inform the American people to get ready for martial law because if they vote for Trump and he wins he's going to rot in jail and anybody rioting over it will be shot. And he should further announce that a Vote a vote for Trump will give you the dictatorship you desire. If you want a peaceful future vote for me and I will simply remove 5 members of the Supreme Court and replace them with objective judges who will reverse all the courts recent absurd decisions. We are not turning over the reigns of power to a criminal psychopath, period or allow anybody at all to try to facilitate it.

Idk. It might be easier to just let a known traitor, criminal and capricious sociopath become dictator, and conduct his purges in peace. The country can always just fall back to hoping for the best.

Wouldn't want to spoil our last few months of not being a monarchy, would we?

BoomerD · Jul 6, 2024

Greenman said:
Isn't it a little interesting that it's the liberals playing the fear game? "Trump will end democracy if he's democratically elected" doesn't ring true to me.
The states get to decide who the president will be, and if the states decide that's Trump, then that's what we'll get. The republic will stand, Trump will be replaced in four years, the world will go on.

Unless Trump’s USSC decides that the founders didn’t approve the 22nd amendment in their original document, therefore, the 2 term limit imposed by that amendment is unconstitutional.

cytg111 · Jul 6, 2024

Moonbeam said:
In my opinion Biden should inform the American people to get ready for martial law because if they vote for Trump and he wins he's going to rot in jail and anybody rioting over it will be shot. And he should further announce that a Vote a vote for Trump will give you the dictatorship you desire. If you want a peaceful future vote for me and I will simply remove 5 members of the Supreme Court and replace them with objective judges who will reverse all the courts recent absurd decisions. We are not turning over the reigns of power to a criminal psychopath, period or allow anybody at all to try to facilitate it.

100% this.

cytg111 · Jul 6, 2024

Also if Kamala was the take the reigns I think there would be a 0% probability of Trump debating her.

But tf do I know, she might be able to goat him. She is after all what she is, a master of rhetoric's a lyrical gangster.

cytg111 · Jul 6, 2024

Historical Entry: While the numbers are now at 55:45 I cant help but notice that some of the votes are being cast from, hmmmm. "newish" accounts?

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

IronWing said:
Don't worry everybody. Electing a fascist traitor to an office that was just granted immense unconstitutional powers by a fascist Supreme Court will work out fine.

On the flipside, any non magat familiar with European history is now probably very much on Team Biden if they weren't already.

Even people who hate politics and avoid them understand and appreciate we don't do kings here, my experience anyway.

kage69 · Jul 6, 2024

cytg111 said:
Also if Kamala was the take the reigns I think there would be a 0% probability of Trump debating her.

But tf do I know, she might be able to goat him. She is after all what she is, a master of rhetoric's a lyrical gangster.

I can see her rolling up her sleeves and going to town on him. Just getting cold. Mango Mussolini would be doing his sweaty 'I need another diaper' dance.

Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

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