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Dave_5k

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Wrong..

There was a realignment after the 2020 election due to the census. He needs 1 more state:

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This map is wrong - Nebraska, like Maine, has split electoral votes still, one of which (Omaha) is at least light blue - which gives the 270th electoral vote to the Dems in this scenario. (Trump leaned hard on them, but wasn't able to force Nebraska Republicans to get a change pushed through the last legislative session to go to winner takes all)
 

zzyzxroad

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All fixed up. I'm nothing if not accommodating.

Just fyi, I had no idea retarded was a slur. I've heard "special needs" used, but that seems to be a very broad category. As it happens, my best friend has a child that falls under that description, and the issue has never come up.
Good on you... knowing is half the battle.
 

esquared

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It's has been a slur for decades. It's hard to precisely say what decade. My experience is from back in the 60s at my Jr high school. My Jr high had a special education 6th grade in it and the shitty little kids would call those in that class the r-word. The word has bothered me for decades.

Further research shows when they were changing on a more national level so the use of the slur I heard in the 60s may have taken another 10-20 years to evolve as an everyday slur.

This from the archived link below.

"In 1987, the group changed its name. Years of the use of “idiot,” “moron,” and “imbecile” as common insults had already inspired a few name changes; this time, the organization went with a progressive, respectful new term that had been introduced in the 1960s, becoming the American Association on Mental Retardation.
It took only two decades for popular culture to drag “mentally retarded” through the mud enough to prompt AAMR to change its name again. In 2007, it became the American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities.
Another group, the Association for Retarded Citizens of the United States, got around to dropping “retarded” from its name in 1992, but since it had been known as “The ARC” for many years, that group wisely made “The Arc” it’s official name, sans acronym. It won’t have to go through another name change.
“Mentally retarded,” once the respectful phrase that replaced the insults, is now the new term to hate among people with intellectual disabilities (the preferred term today) and their families and supporters"

 

manly

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It's has been a slur for decades. It's hard to precisely say what decade. My experience is from back in the 60s at my Jr high school. My Jr high had a special education 6th grade in it and the shitty little kids would call those in that class the r-word. The word has bothered me for decades.

Further research shows when they were changing on a more national level so the use of the slur I heard in the 60s may have taken another 10-20 years to evolve as an everyday slur.

This from the archived link below.

"In 1987, the group changed its name. Years of the use of “idiot,” “moron,” and “imbecile” as common insults had already inspired a few name changes; this time, the organization went with a progressive, respectful new term that had been introduced in the 1960s, becoming the American Association on Mental Retardation.
It took only two decades for popular culture to drag “mentally retarded” through the mud enough to prompt AAMR to change its name again. In 2007, it became the American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities.
Another group, the Association for Retarded Citizens of the United States, got around to dropping “retarded” from its name in 1992, but since it had been known as “The ARC” for many years, that group wisely made “The Arc” it’s official name, sans acronym. It won’t have to go through another name change.
“Mentally retarded,” once the respectful phrase that replaced the insults, is now the new term to hate among people with intellectual disabilities (the preferred term today) and their families and supporters"

In other words, the Deep South never got the memo.
 

zzyzxroad

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Have you never seen Fox News, or better yet, News Max?
Listen to your enemy and you will have the answer to "how" they think.
Add OAN to the mix and give CNN another year to catch up.

Even worse are the folks getting all their information off Facebook, YouTub, X and tiktok. Russia propaganda has been flooding those platforms for years and is intensifying.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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It's has been a slur for decades. It's hard to precisely say what decade. My experience is from back in the 60s at my Jr high school. My Jr high had a special education 6th grade in it and the shitty little kids would call those in that class the r-word. The word has bothered me for decades.

Further research shows when they were changing on a more national level so the use of the slur I heard in the 60s may have taken another 10-20 years to evolve as an everyday slur.

This from the archived link below.

"In 1987, the group changed its name. Years of the use of “idiot,” “moron,” and “imbecile” as common insults had already inspired a few name changes; this time, the organization went with a progressive, respectful new term that had been introduced in the 1960s, becoming the American Association on Mental Retardation.
It took only two decades for popular culture to drag “mentally retarded” through the mud enough to prompt AAMR to change its name again. In 2007, it became the American Association on Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities.
Another group, the Association for Retarded Citizens of the United States, got around to dropping “retarded” from its name in 1992, but since it had been known as “The ARC” for many years, that group wisely made “The Arc” it’s official name, sans acronym. It won’t have to go through another name change.
“Mentally retarded,” once the respectful phrase that replaced the insults, is now the new term to hate among people with intellectual disabilities (the preferred term today) and their families and supporters"

It was somewhere between a slur and just normalized conversational slang for something stupid, not really even targeting an individual (although it could be if used as a slur) in the 90s in Texas, for whatever that's worth.
 

Moonbeam

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Meanwhile, from what I'm hearing is that professionals who are experts in the field of dementia are hesitant for fear of their careers to testify publicly that it's Trump that is showing the real signs of that illness, not Biden. That may be leftist propaganda but perhaps the Dems should push for anonymous opinions from a large number of them.
Congress wants Biden out.
Maybe I should change my odds from 0% to 50/50.

Several top House Democrats call on Biden to step aside during leadership call

More than a handful of House Democratic ranking members told House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in a Sunday call that President Joe Biden needs to step aside from the 2024 campaign, according to sources familiar with the call.
CNN is the enemy bro. I think you should change your odds to whether or not Biden is truly unable to perform the duties of President better than Trump is.
 
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FelixDeCat

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I was not aware of the Wall Street Bets crowd until 2021, but from I learned they used to call themselves and each other retarded in a somewhat favorable way. However, after their subreddit became known to tens of millions of new people after the Game Stop mayhem (whose traffic so overwhelmed the entire site they had to disable it sometimes), they had to start using the term "regarded".

You might be highly regarded by your peers in society but on WSB it has another meaning. If you did not know this, there is no explanation otherwise and you might be confused to see the word seemingly misused there.
 
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Jaskalas

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Biden now thinks he was the Senator from Pennsylvania. Or he no longer comprehends state lines or their meaning.
“Even when I was running for Senate, each time I ran – quite frankly, not a joke – Philadelphia, in particularly, got me across the line,” Biden said, eliciting applause from the audience. “No, I’m not joking.”​
Not appearing to catch his mistake, Biden plowed ahead.​
“No, I mean it, seriously. Organizationally and in terms of fundraising, the whole deal,” Biden said.​
 

Dave_5k

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Biden now thinks he was the Senator from Pennsylvania. Or he no longer comprehends state lines or their meaning.
“Even when I was running for Senate, each time I ran – quite frankly, not a joke – Philadelphia, in particularly, got me across the line,” Biden said, eliciting applause from the audience. “No, I’m not joking.”​
Not appearing to catch his mistake, Biden plowed ahead.​
“No, I mean it, seriously. Organizationally and in terms of fundraising, the whole deal,” Biden said.​
This is factually a fair representation, and easily verified. First as context, the population of Philadelphia is about 50% larger than the entire state of Delaware. And based on public records, the city of Philadelphia was his #2 source of funding (Wilmington, Delaware just edging it out)

2002 example:

And if referring to the Greater Philadelphia region, or the Philadelphia Metro Region (which includes both Wilmington and Philadelphia), Biden was 100% accurate in that it provided the largest chunk of his funding (and almost certainly organization) for his Senate campaigns.

Edit: That said, Biden was basically broke, and running a shoestring-budget Senate campaign compared to most current politicians. Total fundraising of $4 million for Senate campaign!
 

MrSquished

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Where's Biden doing a presser with unscripted questions to prove the doubters wrong? To prove what our eyes and ears have been telling us and are telling us is false.

Nowhere. He did a radio interview with planted questions, and some short campaign stops all scripted. He did do a pre-taped interview with Stephanopoulos, and I mean the topic was pretty evident, and he didn't do well there either. Over a week later and nothing. He doesn't have it in him anymore. He is toast. It's unbelievably blatantly clear, but too many people are in denial, and not enough major Dems are stepping up. It's just bigly sad.

What I am seeing online is that there are a ton of Biden cultists out there, though there are plenty of, and more and more people are starting to state the obvious about how they are gaslighting us, and Biden should step down gracefully. But still, I don't have enough in common with the Dem party, a lot of us didn't want Biden in the first place, we wanted a shot to vote for the passing of the torch, knowing that Biden was done, he did great but he should have been done. We were denied that, all in order to beat Trump, and plenty of people, including here, totally backed Biden on this, and said he was the only real choice to beat Trump back then. If that is what half the party believed then and still believes now, that Biden is really the best this party can do, and then, when why we wanted Biden out gets proven true, and his overall numbers have always kind of sucked for approval/disapproval, and against a very weak and shitty candidate named Trump, and they are now gaslighting us about Biden still and still saying he is the only one - then I am not part of that pathetic kind of party anymore. This is the best they thought we could do then, AND even now too?

I filled out my voter registration change form to independent. If Biden is not gone in a week, I'm done being a Democrat. This is insulting to intelligent rational people. I will still do some doorknocking in PA, mail some postcards. But I won't even bother voting for Biden in my state. THere are no competitive races in my area for any local, state level or federal level that Dems can lose. They don't need my vote here. Voting for Biden has now become voting for an ego, a guy whose circle has gaslit us for months about the most important thing in recent American history,a bunch of people with cognitive dissonance that have such a low fucking bar for this party, and it's all just insulting at this point.

Finito. At this point Biden and the New York Times can both go fuck themselves, even though the New York Times is finally right about this, they still just suck overall with their news coverage and biases.
 
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gothuevos

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Where's Biden doing a presser with unscripted questions to prove the doubters wrong? To prove what our eyes and ears have been telling us and are telling us is false.

Nowhere. He did a radio interview with planted questions, and some short campaign stops all scripted. He did do a pre-taped interview with Stephanopoulos, and I mean the topic was pretty evident, and he didn't do well there either. Over a week later and nothing. He doesn't have it in him anymore. He is toast. It's unbelievably blatantly clear, but too many people are in denial, and not enough major Dems are stepping up. It's just bigly sad.

What I am seeing online is that there are a ton of Biden cultists out there, though there are plenty of, and more and more people are starting to state the obvious about how they are gaslighting us, and Biden should step down gracefully. But still, I don't have enough in common with the Dem party, a lot of us didn't want Biden in the first place, we wanted a shot to vote for the passing of the torch, knowing that Biden was done, he did great but he should have been done. We were denied that, and plenty of people, including here, totally backed Biden on this, and said he was the only real choice to beat Trump. If that is what half the party believed then and still believes now, that Biden is really the best this party can do, and then, when why we wanted Biden out gets proven true, and his overall numbers have always kind of sucked for approval/disapproval, and against a very weak and shitty candidate named Trump, and they are now gaslighting us about Biden still and still saying he is the only one - then I am not part of that pathetic kind of party anymore. This is the best they thought we could do then, AND even now too?

I filled out my voter registration change form to independent. If Biden is not gone in a week, I'm done being a Democrat. This is insulting to intelligent rational people. I will still do some doorknocking in PA, mail some postcards. But I won't even bother voting for Biden in my state. THere are no competitive races in my area for any local, state level or federal level that Dems can lose. They don't need my vote here. Voting for Biden has now become voting for an ego, a guy whose circle has gaslit us for months about the most important thing in recent American history,a bunch of people with cognitive dissonance that have such a low fucking bar for this party, and it's all just insulting at this point.

Finito. At this point Biden and the New York Times can both go fuck themselves, even though the New York Times is finally right about this, they still just suck overall with their news coverage and biases.

At some point you need to worry about the down ballot effect "Dems in disarray" will have.

Look, Biden wasn't even favored to win before the debate. But if this spills over and prevents them from holding the Senate (already not favored) or flipping the House... disaster.
 

MrSquished

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At some point you need to worry about the down ballot effect "Dems in disarray" will have.

Look, Biden wasn't even favored to win before the debate. But if this spills over and prevents them from holding the Senate (already not favored) or flipping the House... disaster.
As I stated, there are a total of zero competitive downballot races in my district/area. Zero. Dems will win all of them handily. I will have no effect on any of those downballot races whatever I do.

I will still do some doorknocking in PA, a swing state. Probably not as often as before the gaslighting by Biden and his team became evident, and the Dem party showed me they have plenty of cultists as well, but I'll do some for sure.
 

BoomerD

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Where's Biden doing a presser with unscripted questions to prove the doubters wrong? To prove what our eyes and ears have been telling us and are telling us is false.

Nowhere. He did a radio interview with planted questions, and some short campaign stops all scripted. He did do a pre-taped interview with Stephanopoulos, and I mean the topic was pretty evident, and he didn't do well there either. Over a week later and nothing. He doesn't have it in him anymore. He is toast. It's unbelievably blatantly clear, but too many people are in denial, and not enough major Dems are stepping up. It's just bigly sad.

What I am seeing online is that there are a ton of Biden cultists out there, though there are plenty of, and more and more people are starting to state the obvious about how they are gaslighting us, and Biden should step down gracefully. But still, I don't have enough in common with the Dem party, a lot of us didn't want Biden in the first place, we wanted a shot to vote for the passing of the torch, knowing that Biden was done, he did great but he should have been done. We were denied that, all in order to beat Trump, and plenty of people, including here, totally backed Biden on this, and said he was the only real choice to beat Trump back then. If that is what half the party believed then and still believes now, that Biden is really the best this party can do, and then, when why we wanted Biden out gets proven true, and his overall numbers have always kind of sucked for approval/disapproval, and against a very weak and shitty candidate named Trump, and they are now gaslighting us about Biden still and still saying he is the only one - then I am not part of that pathetic kind of party anymore. This is the best they thought we could do then, AND even now too?

I filled out my voter registration change form to independent. If Biden is not gone in a week, I'm done being a Democrat. This is insulting to intelligent rational people. I will still do some doorknocking in PA, mail some postcards. But I won't even bother voting for Biden in my state. THere are no competitive races in my area for any local, state level or federal level that Dems can lose. They don't need my vote here. Voting for Biden has now become voting for an ego, a guy whose circle has gaslit us for months about the most important thing in recent American history,a bunch of people with cognitive dissonance that have such a low fucking bar for this party, and it's all just insulting at this point.

Finito. At this point Biden and the New York Times can both go fuck themselves, even though the New York Times is finally right about this, they still just suck overall with their news coverage and biases.
Just get it over with and vote for Trump. That's really what all this is going to accomplish. The Dems don't have a candidate who polls nearly as well as Biden against Trump, so If Biden steps down and some other dem steps in...Trump will win. If Biden stays in...it's about 40/60 that Trump will win...so you might as well just vote for Trump and get it over with. That way you can blame Biden for losing the election.
 
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