Maybe, but I think Kamala has accomplished less than most. Gore pushed his climate agenda, Biden was fairly active during the Obama years.you realize that most VPs are invisible, right?
Yea, I agree. Trump is very dangerous, and distinctly a threat to the rule of law. However, I am less apocalyptical than some, in that I still believe somehow the country will survive relatively intact. However, if Trump wins, and MAGA (there are really very few real Republicans left) gets a majority in both the House and the Senate to go along with a packed Supreme Court, then we are in for a very rough ride. There will be no one left to check Trumps revenge agenda.At some point you need to worry about the down ballot effect "Dems in disarray" will have.
Look, Biden wasn't even favored to win before the debate. But if this spills over and prevents them from holding the Senate (already not favored) or flipping the House... disaster.
This is a great way to make things blow up in your face.Where's Biden doing a presser with unscripted questions to prove the doubters wrong? To prove what our eyes and ears have been telling us and are telling us is false.
Nowhere. He did a radio interview with planted questions, and some short campaign stops all scripted. He did do a pre-taped interview with Stephanopoulos, and I mean the topic was pretty evident, and he didn't do well there either. Over a week later and nothing. He doesn't have it in him anymore. He is toast. It's unbelievably blatantly clear, but too many people are in denial, and not enough major Dems are stepping up. It's just bigly sad.
What I am seeing online is that there are a ton of Biden cultists out there, though there are plenty of, and more and more people are starting to state the obvious about how they are gaslighting us, and Biden should step down gracefully. But still, I don't have enough in common with the Dem party, a lot of us didn't want Biden in the first place, we wanted a shot to vote for the passing of the torch, knowing that Biden was done, he did great but he should have been done. We were denied that, all in order to beat Trump, and plenty of people, including here, totally backed Biden on this, and said he was the only real choice to beat Trump back then. If that is what half the party believed then and still believes now, that Biden is really the best this party can do, and then, when why we wanted Biden out gets proven true, and his overall numbers have always kind of sucked for approval/disapproval, and against a very weak and shitty candidate named Trump, and they are now gaslighting us about Biden still and still saying he is the only one - then I am not part of that pathetic kind of party anymore. This is the best they thought we could do then, AND even now too?
I filled out my voter registration change form to independent. If Biden is not gone in a week, I'm done being a Democrat. This is insulting to intelligent rational people. I will still do some doorknocking in PA, mail some postcards. But I won't even bother voting for Biden in my state. THere are no competitive races in my area for any local, state level or federal level that Dems can lose. They don't need my vote here. Voting for Biden has now become voting for an ego, a guy whose circle has gaslit us for months about the most important thing in recent American history,a bunch of people with cognitive dissonance that have such a low fucking bar for this party, and it's all just insulting at this point.
Finito. At this point Biden and the New York Times can both go fuck themselves, even though the New York Times is finally right about this, they still just suck overall with their news coverage and biases.
This "both sides" argument is absurd. Yes, the Dems should have a better candidate and should run a better campaign to counteract the Rep FUD, but it is what it is, and a diminished Biden is exponentially less of a threat to our country than a psychotic, egomaniacal, revenge seeking Trump. Like I said before, have you read his tweets? They literally show a paranoid, habitually lying, deranged egomaniac. Sometimes life comes down to "the best of bad choices", and Biden is clearly that over Trump.As I stated, there are a total of zero competitive downballot races in my district/area. Zero. Dems will win all of them handily. I will have no effect on any of those downballot races whatever I do.
I will still do some doorknocking in PA, a swing state. Probably not as often as before the gaslighting by Biden and his team became evident, and the Dem party showed me they have plenty of cultists as well, but I'll do some for sure.
If Biden is not gone in a week, I'm done being a Democrat.
That makes a lot of sense, if you watched the debate with fingers in your ears, eyes closed tight, and humming really loud.Meanwhile, from what I'm hearing is that professionals who are experts in the field of dementia are hesitant for fear of their careers to testify publicly that it's Trump that is showing the real signs of that illness, not Biden. That may be leftist propaganda but perhaps the Dems should push for anonymous opinions from a large number of them.
CNN is the enemy bro. I think you should change your odds to whether or not Biden is truly unable to perform the duties of President better than Trump is.
Y'all are nuts.And you had the gall to call me full of shit and lies.. a bernie bro and all sorts of name.
Just fuck off this forum and go fuck with taj and make magat babies.
Y'all are nuts.
I'm not going maga. I'm going independent. I'll be voting Democrat when it matters, but I don't want to be a Democrat. The party is just sad especially now when so many are just so oblivious and in a cult too.
I even said I'm still going to go door knocking in a swing state whoever the nominee is.
To me right now being a Democrat is embarrassing and it's been coming for a while. Especially when we went with Biden again, Not just because many of us were extremely unhappy and concerned about that, And of course we got proven right, But also because his approval ratings are just really bad historically and other negatives he had, besides obviously declining so fast.
Imagine thinking that because you don't want to be part of a label of idiocy, means you're going to start supporting pure evil.
Let me know when we had a competitive primary that meant anything. It was a formality, a ceremonial primary. There were no real options.Democracy: you respect what the people vote for even if its stupid.
You may not like it, but the people voted for him.
You can't overthrow democracy if you don't like the outcome..
if you do you are doing exactly what Trump and MAGA did!
Which cult?Just checking in to see what my cultist talking points are today ...
Which cult?
Those are easy.The Biden cult. You know, with our flags, and our Subaru parades, and our ...
This is some real weapons grade projection, hahaha.Those are easy.
The debate was a cheap fake.
Biden is actually getting smarter as he ages.
Trump was clearly struggling to get the words out of his mouth.
While in corrupt coordination with over 50 state Republican legislators and party leaders to create and submit fraudulent elector ballotsThis is some real weapons grade projection, hahaha.
One big pro-Biden point - he didn't attempt a coup. Oh sorry ... Trump only 'attempted to have his vice president violate his constitutional duties so Trump could remain president after losing the 2020 election'.
That was just a little fun while I wait for Trumps insurrection trial to start.This is some real weapons grade projection, hahaha.
One big pro-Biden point - he didn't attempt a coup. Oh sorry, to use @Greenman approved words Trump only 'attempted to have his vice president violate his constitutional duties so Trump could remain president after losing the 2020 election'.
Democrats can't seem to keep their mouths shut and keep feeding the narrative that distracts from the true threat of Trump. Using the media generated hysteria to push out a candidate isn't going to be great, because the media will also immediately move onto the next Dems in Disarray story - there will be no reward here.Well if Congressional Ds think he's being arrogant, egotistical, and fooling himself about his chances this MSNBC thing ain't going to help. He's trying to bulldoze them but he wouldn't be on there saying this stuff if there wasn't a real threat to his candidacy.
This Trumpian turn is doing real damage to him at least among my peers in terms of how we view him. Not ideal for a cycle where enthusiasm is already low.
Hey, all I'm happy to see is you admitting Trump attempted a coup. (after all, an attempt to get someone to violate the Constitution to overturn the results of an election is a coup!)That was just a little fun while I wait for Trumps insurrection trial to start.
I've been saying for over a year now that Joe was losing it, so I wasn't surprised by his debate performance. I actually thought he did alright for the condition he's in. I do think that keeping him in the race has a Weekend at Bernie's feel to it. He's done his time and should be allowed to walk away with his dignity reasonably intact. We don't need to watch him deteriorate and become a sock puppet mouthing whatever words are put on his teleprompter. We sure as hell don't need the never ending ridicule the right will toss at him for every mangled statement he makes or every insane memory he talks about.
Democrats can't seem to keep their mouths shut and keep feeding the narrative that distracts from the true threat of Trump. Using the media generated hysteria to push out a candidate isn't going to be great, because the media will also immediately move onto the next Dems in Disarray story - there will be no reward here.
It would also probably be a bad look for Biden to publicly waffle on his candidacy. If he was to leave, it would likely happen very quickly.
Only listened to clips to the unscheduled phone interview to Morning Joe. But he basically is telling bedwetting Dem congress critters and donors to stuff it. The people have spoken in the primariesI don't expect him to waffle on his candidacy until it's over. I do expect him not to vent at his own party for his own mistakes and start lying about stuff on call ins like Trump does. In the end there has to be some kind of realistic plan to actually win the general election and so far I'm not seeing it. It looks increasingly like a suicide run entirely in service to his own ego.
The media needs little help from elected Ds to keep after him on this topic. It's going to continue even if every D was lockstep behind them. It's not going away for him and any further slips will be mercilessly punished. It's unfair and shitty but cannot be wished away.
I don't expect him to waffle on his candidacy until it's over. I do expect him not to vent at his own party for his own mistakes and start lying about stuff on call ins like Trump does. In the end there has to be some kind of realistic plan to actually win the general election and so far I'm not seeing it. It looks increasingly like a suicide run entirely in service to his own ego.
After the convention Biden isn’t going anywhere unless he dies.Much rather have this drama now vs late October or early November.