What would be the point?In b4 AMD is sandbagging hard by sending out old B0 silicon to reviewers that is buggy/clocks worse than the retail samples on a newer stepping.
I'm just trying to explain the existence of this ancient sample. The crazier the speculation, the better!What would be the point?
Or it was done for leak detection.I'm more inclined to believe a misprint or mislabel of some sort rather than AMD holding on to inventory for.... 5 quarters?
I agree with the last part here. :-)I'm just trying to explain the existence of this ancient sample. The crazier the speculation, the better!
Actually I am inclined to believe that. If you look at the spacing between the '99' of the '9950X' they look closer together than AMD's font width. Too close together. Almost touching.Or it's not a photograph but made up.
Prompt: Rewrite the following text as a poem.I'm still confident that Zen 5 delivers 62% IPC under certain conditions such as:
Near absolute zero temperature.
Close to the Earth's core.
In deep space.
Just before getting sucked into a blackhole.
When touched by Thor.
On the dark side of the moon.
On a sunny day in Siberia.
When no one's looking.
When threatened by Darth Vader.
When all the planets of the solar system align.
When a gravitational wave runs through it.
Even with 4.5 GHz clocks, it would still be a pretty decent chip. No more inter-CCD latency!Wouldnt it be something if at some point they surprise with a 16 core unified L3 X3D 3nm chip? Depending on clocks, seems like it could be a potent SKU.
Yes, I wonder if the picture used on the site is an old one randomly picked that just shows an early ES.Very strange there would even exist a retail etched sample from so long ago. It doesn't seem like it's necessarily one of the review samples, that article is kind of all over the place saying bitwit kyle "found it on a plane". The photos of the actual review samples have the details blurred on the IHS.
This article shows a CPU with the very same etchings, and same PCB layout:I wonder if the picture used on the site is an old one randomly picked that just shows an early ES.
TPU said:At its Computex 2024 booth, AMD showed us their latest flagship desktop processor, the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X. [...]
So it seems like it was likely MFG specifically as a showpiece. That leads me to believe no conclusions can be drawn from the dates. They probably made it a long time ago out of a really early ES sample to show privately and it's just been around for a while.This article shows a CPU with the very same etchings, and same PCB layout:
TechPowerUp on June 4, Hands On with the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X "Zen 5" Desktop Processor
Edit: even with the same scratch mark on the left side of the heat spreader.
If the performance uplift falls off at 160W+ im still coping for BIOS uplift
Remember, rear view mirrors are hard to deal with, work smart, not hard.The earlier they get their work done, the quicker they can slap Intel around
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Looks like clock really tanks with low limit on Zen5, i've had like 4 ghz on my system with 90W/90W/90W limits
Interesting. You have a link to that article??
at 60W PPT my 7950X only gets about 28-29W core power. Only a few watts more than he's getting. I'm completely stock with only 6000C30 EXPO enabled.It tanks because the guy increased exageratly the IOD TDP, this way all numbers are truncated and shifted to an apparent lower efficency, Computerbase measured the IOD TDP at 15W with stock RAM and about 20W with 6000 RAM, far from the 35W we can see here.
At 60W PPT he s actually at 45W PPT, his 90W is actually 70W PPT and his 120W is 100W PPT, that s the real numbers, and still, that would be with DDR 6000, at stock RAM speed the actual figures are 40W/65W/95W.
That's a zen 2 article.
That's in line with the conversation, they posted a Zen 2 graph.That's a zen 2 article.
at 60W PPT my 7950X only gets about 28-29W core power. Only a few watts more than he's getting.
Review samples of Zen 4 were labelled with 26th week 2022. Reviews themselves happened on the 16th week of 2023 or so. This shows there usually is a notable gap.Zen 5 IHS shows 2023 date. Disqus commenter Senpai noted the visible code seems to indicate 15th week of 2023. Thats over a year ago.
16th week 2023?Review samples of Zen 4 were labelled with 26th week 2022. Reviews themselves happened on the 16th week of 2023 or so. This shows there usually is a notable gap.
Guy asked about bios pre-launch and post-launch uplift from earlier screenshot i linked for 3900x launch so i provided.That's a zen 2 article.
In your linked article, there are just 3 months between the date on the chip and the review. This time, it's more than a year.Review samples of Zen 4 were labelled with 26th week 2022. Reviews themselves happened on the 16th week of 2023 or so.