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Above 5.35ghz fmax (stock) together with 2x L1, ~1.4x L2 and ~1.15x L3 cache bandwidth
Ontop of 7ns L3 and the core IPC gains going from Z4 to Z5
What do you think the final gaming performance uplift will be vs the 7800x3d ?
It's not. Warhammer 3 battles are pretty insane.Typically this means that the game engine is optimised like dog 💩
SWTOR was causing my CPU to ramp insanely when I first played it back in 2012 where just about every other game was doing fine.
I would be surprised if he was able to get UCLK going at 3600. I'm expecting it was 2:1 mode at 7200/1800/2400Ok so is the UCLK: 3600 and FCLK: 2400 on that Italian guy zen5 or
Did he just run some wierd 7200mts/ MCLK:3600 UFCLK:1800 FCLK:2400 combo ?
Highest IF on Zen4 is 2200 at like 1.35VSOC right ? And hes doing 2400IF. Wouldnt be unreasonable to think that max uclk is now 3600 up from 3300(highest iv seen).I would be surprised if he was able to get UCLK going at 3600. I'm expecting it was 2:1 mode at 7200/1800/2400
Personally I would suspect the entire setup is potentially unstable. Then again, there are very few people I have any faith in for tuning this kind of thing.Highest IF on Zen4 is 2200 at like 1.35VSOC right ? And hes doing 2400IF. Wouldnt be unreasonable to think that max uclk is now 3600 up from 3300(highest iv seen).
Saw igor's lab comparison for 1:2 on zen4 its from 2022 on rtx3090 the difference is ~1-5% regresion for 1:2 vs 1:1
I would be surprised if he was able to get UCLK going at 3600. I'm expecting it was 2:1 mode at 7200/1800/2400
Have he actally said he was running 2400 FCLK ?Highest IF on Zen4 is 2200 at like 1.35VSOC right ? And hes doing 2400IF. Wouldnt be unreasonable to think that max uclk is now 3600 up from 3300(highest iv seen).
Saw igor's lab comparison for 1:2 on zen4 its from 2022 on rtx3090 the difference is ~1-5% regresion for 1:2 vs 1:1
tbh he also says in another comment the video was shot at 3AM, he probably rushed the whole thing after getting the cpu 😅His answer to one of the comments at least makes it sound like he tested different configs and this was the best one.
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Dunno about that.It's not. Warhammer 3 battles are pretty insane.
Pretty sure about it because I'm a Total War veteran. The campaign map is gigantic and the average battle usually involves up to 5000 units all moving at once. Double that with Skaven / Vampires-zombies battles. If zen 5 is about the same as 7800x3d I'm positive that's a good sign.Dunno about that.
Even 11 years after the first 8 core CPUs in game consoles it's still quite common to find newish games with bad multi threading and most of the heavy lifting dumped on only 1-2 threads, one of which contains the UI/main rendering.
Even UE5 does not address it well off the shelf.
Thankfully one of the items in UE5's "forward looking" roadmap is a big MT overhaul:
How fast is the churn of serverside sku's from datacenters?Might be out of the blue, but any expected dates/rumors on EPYC Turin so I can finally buy a used Milan-X from eBay?
They are available now on ebay. Prices are not bad, since Zen 4 server chips are so good. I would recommend them over Milan-x.Might be out of the blue, but any expected dates/rumors on EPYC Turin so I can finally buy a used Milan-X from eBay?
Are the Epyc 7005 series (or whatever the series will be called) also using SP6?They are available now on ebay. Prices are not bad, since Zen 4 server chips are so good. I would recommend them over Milan-x.
Milan and Rome use socket SP3, all of them. Genoa, all variants use SP5. SP6 does not come out until Zen 5 variants. That is if you are talking about sockets.Are the Epyc 7005 series also using SP6?
pretty fast. As Markfw mentioned, even newer CPUs are available.How fast is the churn of serverside sku's from datacenters?
I'd love to but the motherboard costs kill my wallet. I'd like to just drop in an upgrade in my existing board.They are available now on ebay. Prices are not bad, since Zen 4 server chips are so good. I would recommend them over Milan-x.
well, this is a Zen 5 thread, so this is my last post. I got s 9554 for $2500, and the motherboard for $715. The memory was $75 for a 16 gig stick for as many as I wanted. Blows away Rome in every respect, especially avx-512 stuff. So looking forward this should be your target.I'd love to but the motherboard costs kill my wallet. I'd like to just drop in an upgrade in my existing board.
Storytime: The $80 bet I placed on an eBay EPYC CPU
The seller listed it for parts as "I don't have the equipment to test it, hence selling it for parts. No returns."
I looked at the pictures, CPU looked fine in pictures. So I placed an $80 bid and won. It was EPYC 7F72 (Rome)
It cost me around $200 or so when I received it in my country (cost+shipping+customs duty), still not bad. I looked at the CPU more closely and found, one of the SMDs on the back of the CPU is just popped off. like it burnt and removed itself from the CPU but still stuck to the CPU. I was like damnnn... Did I just buy a $200 coaster?
Talked to a few fellas in the Level1Techs discord server, and they told me that the CPU has a 90% chance of working. They don't need all the SMD caps/res on the back.
I was looking for used EPYC SP3 motherboards with PCIe Gen4 and ample PCIe x16 slots (was planning a multi-GPU rig out of this)
found Asrock Rack ROMED8-2T, a lovely board. Has everything I need. $690 on NewEgg/BestBuy. RIP. Even if I imported it, would've cost me more than $1k. EBay listings were from China and were even more expensive.
Found an authorized distributor in my country, and bought the board for $800 (cost + taxes). The $80 gamble has now turned into a ~$1k investment 🤣🤣
Bought a pair of 8GB RDIMMs just to test if it POSTs. To my fucking surprise, it just worked. all memory channels. everything. I just placed the CPU in the board, installed memory, and viola!! IT HAD A POST. Proceeded to order 64GB x 4 kit from EBay seller. And it's running great now.
TL;DR
Bought a burnt EPYC CPU for $80 in an eBay gamble, and it worked. The motherboard is expensive.
Milan and Rome use socket SP3, all of them. Genoa, all variants use SP5. SP6 does not come out until Zen 5 variants. That is if you are talking about sockets.
I have all but Milan-x but they also use SP3
That comment about CP2077 is interesting as AMD was using it as comparison point in its press materials citing +13% lead vs 14900k for both 99xx SKUs
Reviewers definitely have ZEN5 in Hand right now.