The joys of being retired

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olds

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According to my work profile I can retire by 2050 but by then COL will be so high due to inflation I doubt that money will go very far so I'll probably still need a job. I don't want to work the rest of my life though, so I will keep working towards my off grid property so I can eventually retire there and retire early. COL will be super low there due to having way less bills, and taxes are fixed at $100/year so I will be able to retire way earlier.

I will still want some form of way of making money so I can fuel hobbies though but it won't need to be a full time job. No sense in having all that land and no toys to play with.
Save twice what you think you will need.
 

IBMJunkman

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I have been retired for 4149 days. The best thing I did was sell my house in CA and move to NV. Paid off the CA house. With the profit paid off the new NV house and the new car. It is so nice not having a mortgage or car payment. Without those 2 bills and no state income tax my 4 streams of income were a bit too much. Stopped taking payments from one annuity since I did not need it and doing so would let it build up. May need it when Social Security goes broke.
 

nOOky

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Ma's nursing home is $6800/mo.... She'll prolly live 10 more years.

@Red Squirrel at your age, might want to see what a long term care policy costs.

Such an unknown. I just went through this with a brother because I was taking care of his affairs. Over 7k a month and that was actually on the cheaper side. When I hit 60 I'm going to have to decide if I want to invest in long term care insurance or not, it also is not cheap.

It wasn't even my money, but paying all his bills and watching his savings go down so fast was disheartening still.
 
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Exterous

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Be self employed.

For my line of work? No thanks

my original goal was 5 years from now, but if i hold on for 15 years then i'm eligible to keep company healthcare during early retirement until medicare starts

that's hard to pass up even though i hate my job

I haven't even bothered to look when I'm eligible. I know its far enough out that I'll have wanted to be retired for many years before I'd be eligible

Haha good luck with that. The main reason I'll keep working is for health insurance. My wife is self-employed so she needs me to provide insurance. I'd like to retire at 62 myself, but 3 years of health insurance payments without income coming in would suck.

We did look at our ACA options. The coverage we want is already factored in to our 6 year date plus a buffer for increases. Although there is a non-zero chance a certain party getting full control of congress would really torpedo our plans
 

Red Squirrel

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Such an unknown. I just went through this with a brother because I was taking care of his affairs. Over 7k a month and that was actually on the cheaper side. When I hit 60 I'm going to have to decide if I want to invest in long term care insurance or not, it also is not cheap.

It wasn't even my money, but paying all his bills and watching his savings go down so fast was disheartening still.

Damn that's insane. I don't even make close to that much per month now, let alone when I won't be working. Although I guess when you hit that point in life you do get money by selling off land. It's a sad situation to be in though, basically give up everything you worked for since your body slowly stops working. I try not to think that far ahead since it's kind of depressing. Lot of people manage to stay healthy enough to live to the end and die of old age in their own home though. That's how I want to go. Being close to 40 I need to start taking nutritional health more seriously though. I'm better than I was in my 20's at least... I used to eat horribly then and drink ridiculous amounts of pop.
 

JM Aggie08

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Such an unknown. I just went through this with a brother because I was taking care of his affairs. Over 7k a month and that was actually on the cheaper side. When I hit 60 I'm going to have to decide if I want to invest in long term care insurance or not, it also is not cheap.

It wasn't even my money, but paying all his bills and watching his savings go down so fast was disheartening still.
$5k/mo for my grandmother, granted, it's more of an older folks community with added memory care. Still - CHRIST ON A BIKE.
 

AdamK47

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I have been retired for 4149 days. The best thing I did was sell my house in CA and move to NV. Paid off the CA house. With the profit paid off the new NV house and the new car. It is so nice not having a mortgage or car payment. Without those 2 bills and no state income tax my 4 streams of income were a bit too much. Stopped taking payments from one annuity since I did not need it and doing so would let it build up. May need it when Social Security goes broke.
Are people setting up new annuities still?
I mean, other than taking them from financial advisors that get commissions on them.
They don't seem attractive at all.
 

IBMJunkman

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Are people setting up new annuities still?
I mean, other than taking them from financial advisors that get commissions on them.
They don't seem attractive at all.
I have never understood the bad rep they have. I put an amount into it at the start. It had a feature where, as the value went up, it locked in a new guaranteed value. If the value went down, it did not decrease from the max value. I had a few good years, so the value got quite big. And the monthly payout is for life. Don't know any other instrument that does that.
 
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Exterous

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I have never understood the bad rep they have. I put an amount into it at the start. It had a feature where, as the value went up, it locked in a new guaranteed value. If the value went down, it did not decrease from the max value. I had a few good years, so the value got quite big. And the monthly payout is for life. Don't know any other instrument that does that.
Lots of shady sales practices around them pushed by shady sales people sorry I mean "financial advisors"
 

BoomerD

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Personally, I've found retirement to be a lot of work.
You're doing it wrong...it should only be as much work as you want it to be...no more.
my docs medically retired me 21 years ago come December. At first, I went fckn stir crazy. I was used to getting up in the very wee hours...driving 2 hours to work, working 12+ hours per day, then another 2-3-4 hours home at night...THAT shit I didn't miss...and still don't...but all of a sudden, I had all this time on my hands with severe medical restrictions on what I could do...both from the standpoint of what my body would allow...and what my work comp insurance would allow. I still putter around on little projects when my knees will let me.
 

Greenman

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Oct 15, 1999
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I keep telling my wife that I have the rest of my life to complete her to do list. I'm in no rush...
Mine isn't that patient. I can get away with going slow, but I better be moving forward. The dog run I'm building is killing me. Ground was hard as rock when drilling fence posts, it's been in the high 90's since I started, and my back yard is in direct sun for better than half the day.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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hmm being married sounds like it makes this retirement thing harder
There are benefits. I take off my cloths and throw them on the floor and they reappear clean and folded two days later. My coffee is fresh and sitting on my desk when I wake up every morning. The weeks dinned menu is posted every Sunday night for approval, lunch's are generally sandwich's. There are fresh baked deserts at least once a week. I rarely pick up the dog poop in the back yard. I never pull weeds, though I do run my commercial HEPA vacuum over the floors once a week.
That said, when the wife asks me to build her something or landscape the yard, I jump right on it.
 

Steltek

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The thought of retirement gives me extreme anxiety.
A piece of advice. I spent 30 years working for the Social Security Administration and dealt with uncountable numbers of new retirees. Probably authorized a billion dollars or more in total lifetime benefits of retirement claims during that period.

Seriously, you aren't alone feeling like that.

I cannot tell you the number of folks that I dealt with over the years that retired, then just had to go back to work because they literally, mentally and physically, couldn't handle retirement. They were used to getting up, drinking their coffee, and heading to a daily work environment where they were respected, had colleagues that they liked, and were doing things they loved and still wanted to do. After they retired, even if financially secure, all many of them had to do was ....nothing, because that was what they had outside of their jobs.

So, if you are happy doing what you do, don't sweat it as retirement isn't a requirement. In the meantime, as a hedge, begin planning what you would like to do after retirement to avoid that situation. If you are married, obviously your significant other will be very involved in that process......

I promise from my own personal experience if it comes time to retire, you will truly know it.
 
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