Trump has a live convo with National Asso. of Black Journalists in Chicago - and he actually nails it.

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alien42

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This thread is insane, the overall audience reaction was clearly not a win for trump.
 

mikeymikec

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First comment: "I think he was honestly dead from the first question. It called him out on all his racism and asked very directly why should black people specifically trust him after everything he's done. He then attacked their professionalism, called them rude, and was rightly booed 2 minutes and 40 seconds into the whole event. At this rate he'll be lucky to get a single black vote."

Same event, yet a very different take to that of the OP's.
 
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feralkid

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I watched the whole thing. This appearance helped him in no way and very likely harmed him. The clips that people are going to see are him saying Kamala isn't black and other insane stuff. He also called his VP pick useless. He was rude and condescending. None of this is a recipe for gains when your favorables are already in the toilet.

The only way it could have been worse is if he loaded his pants on stage.
Who says he didn't?
 

mikeymikec

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guardian said:
He says that $6m have been raised in a GoFundMe for Comperatore.

He says, that Corey’s wife said, “‘I’d rather have my husband’”.

“Isn’t that good? I know a lot of wives who wouldn’t say that,” he says.

No sense of decorum whatsoever, a splash of projection too: just about par for him.
 
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zinfamous

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TRUMP SPEAKS AT NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLACK JOURNALISTS CONFERENCE IN CHICAGO

Here is a time-marked start where Trump walked in:


He faced a very hard question right from the start - "You've held dinners with white supremacists, you called several politicians of color to go back where they came from, and you called Kamala a DEI hire, what do you have to say to this audience?" He completely dodged it by saying how nasty the host was when he made an effort to be a guest. He actually drew laughter and applause from the audience. This mofo actually dodged it completely.

I do not like him. But I watched the whole 30 minutes or whatever. He was actually... endearing (wtf?), and drew laughter and cheers (yes cheers) from the audience consistently.

At the end his central messages were: Illegal immigrants are coming to take your black jobs too + ill use our large oil to drive down inflation, don't mind EVs + the waterpot black lady police killing "looked very bad" + Biden made inflation.

He kept on going back to the moderator with the 'nasty question' how she was late to the event, her equipment didn't work, NUMEROUS times throughout the debate and the crowd laughed every time. She just sat there defeated because she couldn't be louder than the guest, I guess.

The whole thing was closed by drawing a nice applause and cheers.

Damn I was surprised. He actually handled himself well. That appearance was a win for him and for the garnering black support.

Is this a joke post?
 
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zinfamous

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Yea I can't stand him, but I'm not foaming at the mouth and fail to gauge how the event went down.

oh, lol! you're actually serious?

holy shit to the bolded. YOu can't tell the difference between jeers, boos, and laughter and applause? lol! dude...

regardless, how you think Trump's responses were in any way tolerable, or supported, or some version of "winning," is just beyond the pale.
 

zinfamous

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If you emotional kids can't understand that I'm merely pointing out that Trump as a political candidate made a successful appearance today BASED ON THE AUDIENCE REACTION (not mine), you need to take a breath. I thought this forum is pretty old now and we aren't as rabid.

It appears that you can't differentiate very obvious booing from applause, people laughing at a clown vs laughing with a guy that is saying interesting things (Trump never says interesting things). This is...clearly your problem, but rather than take a step back and consider that you came into that event from the wrong perspective, you've decided that everyone else are emotional children. Everyone else.

Obviously, you can't possibly be wrong, right?

Tell me something: you still getting haf on a daily basis?
 

zinfamous

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There wasn't a single boo nor heckling. Show it to me in a time stamp. I don't give a FACK about trump, but I hate blind idiots.

God what am I posting this for anyway. It's just ALL party X bad, ALL party Y good.

Never mind and carry on.

JFC. Mirror, dude.
 
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zinfamous

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My point all along is that his appearance was good for him based on audience response.

exactly! this is why people are pointing out to you how poorly you've interpreted things.

It's really weird that you don't know what booing and catcalls sound like. It's...really fucking strange.
 
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zinfamous

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You asked me what? Why are you asking me a question for Trump? Ask the idiot, not me.

He said black jobs out loud numerous times in front of the black journalists, then he added, "the immigrants are coming for you." The host and the audience became quiet because that awful shit actually seemed to land. There were no JEERS or BOOs.

It felt more like, "huh, black jobs are american jobs too."

I didn't say Trump is good for America.
I didn't say Trump isn't a racist lunatic.
I merely said today's appearance, Trump landed well based on the audience REACTIONS, NOT what the news is reporting afterwards.
He did not receive jeer or boos. There were 0 boos.
He held their attention and it drew applauses.
My only 'regret' is that I should've titled my thread better. He nailed it with the crowd, but not on the insanely racist/crazy stuff he usually spews.

Nuance. Take a breath. I hate trump too.

It was all Jeers and Boos. people laughing at him. This is not in dispute by anyone but you.

Do you think the response to "black jobs" was not jeers and boos? Why are you being such an arrogant twat here? for some reason you're still stuck on blaming people for "blind hate of Trump" and so unable to see what you are, easily, the only person in the world to have seen. That's not an argument in defense of your inability to properly interpret common human social interactions.

Take the L and move on, dude.
 
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zinfamous

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Jesus I write one narrow thing about Trump's appearance drawing occasional but real applauses and generally landing well BASED ON THE CROWD (not the pundits afterwards), and some of you are having melt downs.

Yea I hate him too, but jesus christ.

YOu can capitalize and bold it and all you want, but that is still the exact point you are wrong about. You are wildly misguided on the audience reactions.

Why is it that it's only Zeze vs the entire world about what audience reactions mean, and you still think you are correct?

Can you pause for a second and consider how preposterously wrong you are, or are you too busy neglecting the family dog yet again, to defend your abject wrongness on the internet?
 
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NWRMidnight

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He said tons of nonsensical stuff as usual.

In retrospect, my thread title should've made it clearer that the audience was mildly receptive to Trump and that was a win as the event closed with an applause and even had numerous laughter that were clearly with him.
I know I am a bit late, I have only read the first 3 pages.. and dude, I don't know how you are connecting the dots that the crowd was laughing with him. For a Crowd to be laughing with someone, the person they are laughing with, generally tends to be laughing as well, Something Trump rarely does, if at all. It usualy also requires the person they are laughing with to say something funny and comical. Everything I saw in that video, Trump wasn't laughing, he wasn't trying to be funny, nor was any of it comical. He was trying to snowball them with lies of made up accomplishmentes. So there is only one reason they where laughing, and that was at him, because they know what he is saying is pure bullshit. They know he's an idiot liar. And they know he is just trying to blow smoke up their asses. People don't laugh, when they support what is being said, they cheer, and loudly clap. There was no real cheering, and only a handful of very faint clapping, which most likely came from his campaign plants. Basically, during that whole thing, Trump was the court jester. A very stupid one, because, just as you think the crowd was with him, so did he.
 

emperus

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Did you watch that clip in its fuller form? I did because I had nothing better to do.

The audience just kind of took it in. The host lady even felt that energy and rebutted, "Kamala identifies as black." No one was gasping at the absurdity unfortunately, it felt more like, "KAMALA IS OURS, NOT INDIAN", not, "YOU ARE RUDE".\



The first quarter yup, but he drew laughter and APPLAUSES at several moments. No one jeered or booed. I know, because I had nothing better to do.

If you emotional kids can't understand that I'm merely pointing out that Trump as a political candidate made a successful appearance today BASED ON THE AUDIENCE REACTION (not mine), you need to take a breath. I thought this forum is pretty old now and we aren't as rabid.

You're way off on this. I heard his comment and did laugh. As in "That's crazy. Holy shit, did he say that, he's nuts." There seemed to be a lot of incredulous gasps as well.

You don't have to believe me, just listen to the scores of other participants making the same comment.

It was nuts on its face that a white man was questioning whether a black person is Black at a Black Journalist's event.

You're way off on this.
 

purbeast0

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Jesus I write one narrow thing about Trump's appearance drawing occasional but real applauses and generally landing well BASED ON THE CROWD (not the pundits afterwards), and some of you are having melt downs.

Yea I hate him too, but jesus christ.
Bro you are the only one having a meltdown in here lol.
 

zinfamous

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I know I am a bit late, I have only read the first 3 pages.. and dude, I don't know how you are connecting the dots that the crowd was laughing with him. For a Crowd to be laughing with someone, the person they are laughing with, generally tends to be laughing as well, Something Trump rarely does, if at all. It usualy also requires the person they are laughing with to say something funny and comical. Everything I saw in that video, Trump wasn't laughing, he wasn't trying to be funny, nor was any of it comical. He was trying to snowball them with lies of made up accomplishmentes. So there is only one reason they where laughing, and that was at him, because they know what he is saying is pure bullshit. They know he's an idiot liar. And they know he is just trying to blow smoke up their asses. People don't laugh, when they support what is being said, they cheer, and loudly clap. There was no real cheering, and only a handful of very faint clapping, which most likely came from his campaign plants. Basically, during that whole thing, Trump was the court jester. A very stupid one, because, just as you think the crowd was with him, so did he.

...I think it's also clear that Zeze has no experience with a black audience.
 

Greenman

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There wasn't a single boo nor heckling. Show it to me in a time stamp. I don't give a FACK about trump, but I hate blind idiots.

God what am I posting this for anyway. It's just ALL party X bad, ALL party Y good.

Never mind and carry on.
I read your OP, and knew exactly how the thread would turn out. Nothing neutral or positive can be said about Trump in P&N without absurd amounts of backlash, and a fair bit of hostility. This is a hard left forum and dissenting opinions aren't welcome.
 

purbeast0

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I read your OP, and knew exactly how the thread would turn out. Nothing neutral or positive can be said about Trump in P&N without absurd amounts of backlash, and a fair bit of hostility. This is a hard left forum and dissenting opinions aren't welcome.
I mean I posted a link in here that even Fox thinks this was a disaster.

But yeah, ATPN is the only group of people who think the OP is wrong.
 

brycejones

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I read your OP, and knew exactly how the thread would turn out. Nothing neutral or positive can be said about Trump in P&N without absurd amounts of backlash, and a fair bit of hostility. This is a hard left forum and dissenting opinions aren't welcome.
So despite all the evidence the OP is just wrong this is your take?

You do understand that reality can be observed right?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I read your OP, and knew exactly how the thread would turn out. Nothing neutral or positive can be said about Trump in P&N without absurd amounts of backlash, and a fair bit of hostility. This is a hard left forum and dissenting opinions aren't welcome.
Disagreement is not backlash.

People disagreed with him. He doubled down, and got rightly ribbed for it. He tripled down and started insulting people, and got backlash for that.

If one cannot handle disagreement in a discussion forum, they shouldn't be participating in it.
 
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