Trump has a live convo with National Asso. of Black Journalists in Chicago - and he actually nails it.

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So I just read through this entire thread and thought I would sum it up.

Zeze I will agree that your opinion is Trump did surprisingly well and you have every right to hold it even in the face of overwhelmingly contrary evidence.
 

Zeze

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You can but what you can’t do is address a single point anyone has raised.

We call that kind of behavior trolling.
I replied over and over, but we all know feeding doesn't stop the trolling.

This thread is done basically. It's just bickering.
 

fskimospy

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I replied over and over, but we all know feeding doesn't stop the trolling.

This thread is done basically. It's just bickering.
I think I made a very reasonable request of you - can you provide a statement by any person at the event not affiliated with the Trump campaign who shares your view?

If not, does that indicate to you that your perception of the event might be wrong?
 
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Yes, but was made into a far too long winded question that Trump just ignored that part of
Fuck why is it so hard to say
“Is former President Obama born in the US”
Wait for answer then
“Were you wrong about saying he wasn’t”
 

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Fuck why is it so hard to say
“Is former President Obama born in the US”
Wait for answer then
“Were you wrong about saying he wasn’t”
Eh, he would've dodged it just fine. He dodged that opening bombshell too and AGAIN, the crowd laughed with Trump and AT the host for being long-winded and mean.

"Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Lots of people were talking, and I have it on a good reason, blah blah."

Whether you hate him or not, he can slither his way out. He IS an experienced speaker however janky or absurd he is.

Go ahead, I can picture the rabid haters hating on me based on the apolitical statement. That's the kind of behavior that'll encourage the swing voters to vote him into office.
 

fskimospy

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Fuck why is it so hard to say
“Is former President Obama born in the US”
Wait for answer then
“Were you wrong about saying he wasn’t”
Pretty sure that conversation would go like this:

Reporter: 'was Obama born in the US?'
Trump: 'you're fake news, this is why everyone hates you, did I ever tell you about my uncle from MIT? Very good brain.'

Rinse, repeat.

US reporters need to take a cue from UK and commonwealth reporters and simply end interviews if the subject is unwilling to answer basic questions and/or is pitching obvious lies. It's a basic duty to their audience.
 
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I replied over and over, but we all know feeding doesn't stop the trolling.

This thread is done basically. It's just bickering.
Zeze from what I have read/seen about the event it does not appear the former President did well. While I haven’t watched the entire thing nor do I plan to it seems the majority of people agree Trump did poorly.
You are free to have a different opinion it’s just in P&N we are less forgiving of blatantly wrong opinions post 2016.
 
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Eh, he would've dodged it just fine.

"Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Lots of people were talking, and I have it on a good reason, blah blah."

Whether you hate him or not, he can grease his out. He IS an experienced speaker however janky or absurd he is.
Then follow up with
“Is he an American born in the US?”
 
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Pretty sure that conversation would go like this:

Reporter: 'was Obama born in the US?'
Trump: 'you're fake news, this is why everyone hates you, did I ever tell you about my uncle from MIT? Very good brain.'

Rinse, repeat.

US reporters need to take a cue from UK and commonwealth reporters and simply end interviews if the subject is unwilling to answer basic questions and/or is pitching obvious lies. It's a basic duty to their audience.
I would literally sit there for two hours repeating “is he an American and born in the US?”

Or I would do what he’s doing and twist the answer into it sounds like you are saying he wasn’t born in the US.
 

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Trump does have lizard appeal.

Personally as a fan of dry humor, I'd find his shtick hilarious if it were actually a shtick, and he were not running for an actual important position where he has keys to a fucking nuclear arsenal.

I mean, that electric boat vs shark speech, which would you rather die from--that's good standup. The fact that he went on about it for minutes at a political rally is simply insane.

I still think he bombed at that interview, but then I tend to take a dim view of arrogant racists telling others how "they" are or what they are. Maybe it's because my kids are "two things", but this whole you are either black or Indian is fucked up. Him saying he's the greatest President for blacks since Lincoln is fucked up. Everything this guy says is a lie, or ignorant, or both.
 
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Also I must say, Trump has become very comfortable in his shoes on a presidential stage.

I clearly remember the dumbass doe-eyed look when he ACTUALLY won the first presidency. He knew he was just shit-posting on the sidelines to launch TrumpTV after the election. You could see the scared expression on his face.

Today, after 4 years and the J6 - he's more comfortable and empowered than ever. And these literal cucks such as Ted Cruz and Lady Graham are literal slimey Roman senators.
 
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Well I never thought Zeze was MAGA, but his take on politics, including the original post, plus this latest post, are just way way way way out there and off the mark quite consistently.
 

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I read your OP, and knew exactly how the thread would turn out. Nothing neutral or positive can be said about Trump in P&N without absurd amounts of backlash, and a fair bit of hostility. This is a hard left forum and dissenting opinions aren't welcome.
There he is. The laughable liar magat coward who runs from threads where simple questions are asked. You are so sad. You never answered Homer or m question in other thread. Why? Would you be angry at daughter who reported rape years later by Trump?
 
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Maybe the "Best president for black people since Abraham Lincoln" should reach out to Hispanic reporters next.
 

Zeze

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There he is. The laughable liar magat coward who runs from threads where simple questions are asked. You are so sad.
Hey it's alright. This is just a forum. Take a breath. You're voting left this november, so am I. That other dude will vote right. It's okay.

You will eat your dinner tonight.






 

APU_Fusion

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No I know, some of the people here are insanely rabid. Think about this place like amateur hockey. Some people come to play the game and some people just come here to blow off steam (fight).
Says the poster who screams about Trumpistan and weak democrats in other thread.
 
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Yeah he responded to tone. I don't know what else to tell you.
Oh please. Questions were asked and he went to condescending immediately. “Immature children, just breathe, nuance.” He got personal fast because his opinion about something was questioned and even with all the evidence against him he quadrupled down.
 
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Zeze

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Why did I start posting in politics from yesterday. Look at this shit show. Mud slinging in all directions. All means absolutely nothing.
 

fskimospy

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Why did I start posting in politics from yesterday. Look at this shit show. Mud slinging in all directions. All means absolutely nothing.
Any progress on finding someone present at the event who supports your interpretation?

If the answer is you can't find any that's fine but I would hope that would cause you to re-evaluate your position.
 
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