Question Should I Use the "Seal Plate" on "Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case"?

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I just built a new computer, and there is a couple of extras I got that came with the mobo. One of them is what they call a "Seal Plate for Optimized Airflow." It attaches to the front top, as shown in the 2nd image below (highlighted blue). This seems to be for if you hook up 2 extra fans on the top mid and rear (which aren't included), which I don't plan to do. Those two big fans in the front that are already a part of the case give plenty more than enough air flow.

I was wondering if I should still put that plate on the top to prevent dust from settling in through the top grates, or just go without? The back two brackets where the fans go are right above where the CPU fan is, so I'd imagine dust getting in there would be less of an issue.

That is the only thing I don't like about this case - all the mini-holes in the top of the case that will let dust settle in there. They only have one of the brackets, so I couldn't seal up the other two unless I got some kind of additional brackets from Lowes or something that would fit it. Not sure if I should bother though?



 

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My daughter has had this case with the stock fan configuration for about 18 months. We did not install that seal plate. We don't have any trouble with dust coming in through the top.
 
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I could see one other potential benefit: less air going out that front top space before it hits the components.

I have found in my Corsair 4000D, I still get dust slowly settling in some spots, despite the intakes all having dust filters, and the top also having a dust filter. So I could still see the closing off of the opening useful on that front.
 
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I could see one other potential benefit: less air going out that front top space before it hits the components.

I have found in my Corsair 4000D, I still get dust slowly settling in some spots, despite the intakes all having dust filters, and the top also having a dust filter. So I could still see the closing off of the opening useful on that front.
Thanks for the feedback from both of you. As far as it being useful for air flow, I see what you're saying, and I was thinking that earlier as well. Forces the air towards the mobo and other components before it can go anywhere else. Might not make a huge difference, but it'll only take a min to screw that thing on, so I might as well.
 

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Assuming you are going to have the two front intake fans pushing in more air than the combination of the rear exhaust fan and PSU (or does it intake from the bottom, possibly?), which also depends on what speed fans you choose and how they are controlled for speed, then it would be better to block at least that one forward top fan mount position and possibly also the 2nd/middle one.

IF you do have positive case pressurization then at least while it's running, dust shouldn't come in the top. If you don't have positive case pressurization because of how you set up the fan speeds and/or the rear fan is much stronger than the two front combined, then you should seal off at least the rearward and middle, top fan mounts, and put filter panels on those that aren't sealed off, or is that what is pictured in the first pic, a filter panel over them already?

The case isn't designed well, should also have the rear perforations above, and below if there are any, the fan blocked off, including the area on the side of the card bracket panels, and all the card bracket panels themselves blocked or replaced with solid slot bracket covers with the occasional exception that it can sometimes help a bit to have an unused slot under a single height video card, left empty and that bracket cover left off for a little more airflow across the underside (heatsink side) of the video card.

If this isn't a high power system, it may not make much difference either way, since three large(ish) fans should be plenty unless you're putting in video cards to use under gaming/etc load for a few hundred addt'l watts, and in that situation you would want your lower front fan to be moving more air than the rest and it would also be of benefit to block the rearmost and middle, top fan mounts if not all 3, so the rear panel fan is pulling more air from the lower half of the case.
 

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Gamer's Nexus has the 216 as one of the best cases for temps. The CPU tests had the 216 at the top of the chart. Gpu temps were in the middle. He notes that the stock fans are really good in this case, better than the 140mm Noctua fans they use for standardized testing.


As as I have mentioned before, we do not have a dust problem after almost 20 months of real world use.
 

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Okay but with which fan positions populated, vs empty, vs blocked off, as this bares directly on the topic question?

Better is relative, I assume you mean lower temps but probably more fan noise to get there too? If the system in question isn't power hungry, lower noise might be a reasonable goal, obviously as long as nothing is overheating. GPU temps and CPU temps very much depend on which CPU, heatsink, and video card. Further a faster fan on the CPU 'sink, as long as a larger diameter fan, tends not to cause as much audible noise escaping the system as the noise from turbulence from the case front/rear/top fans.

Case positioning relative to the user can also matter. If it is beside a desk and line of sight from your ears to the top fan mounts, you'll hear noise coming from them more. If case is on the desk and front fans are line of sight, noise escaping there will be heard more.

Ultimately it's not a big deal to experiment, try it one way and then another till you find the best noise:temp compromise for your situation.
 
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Okay but with which fan positions populated, vs empty, vs blocked off, as this bares directly on the topic question?

Better is relative, I assume you mean lower temps but probably more fan noise to get there too? If the system in question isn't power hungry, lower noise might be a reasonable goal, obviously as long as nothing is overheating. GPU temps and CPU temps very much depend on which CPU, heatsink, and video card. Further a faster fan on the CPU 'sink, as long as a larger diameter fan, tends not to cause as much audible noise escaping the system as the noise from turbulence from the case front/rear/top fans.

Case positioning relative to the user can also matter. If it is beside a desk and line of sight from your ears to the top fan mounts, you'll hear noise coming from them more. If case is on the desk and front fans are line of sight, noise escaping there will be heard more.

Ultimately it's not a big deal to experiment, try it one way and then another till you find the best noise:temp compromise for your situation.
The GM video uses the fans in the stock location, so 2-160mm front, 1-140mm rear. They also use the same system during all of their case testing. My daughter uses the same configuration. GN did note that the fans can get loud as the 160mm fans go to 1600 rpm. In real world use with a 7600X with an ID Cooling SE226 and a 6800XT system the fans are completely silent.
 

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@mindless1

AFAIK the seal plate’s function is to prevent hot air that was thrown out of the case from getting sucked into the case again. Phanteks implements a similar plate in some of their cases to be fitted either in the top front or top back if 2 fans or 2 fan AIO is fitted. If you have top mounted fans or AIO use it, if not don’t.

No matter what you do dust always finds a way in and using solid bracket covers will only make things worse as it will trap it inside.

On the case not being designed well I will respectfully disagree as this is a common and proven design. Most top mounted fans and AIOs are supposed to move hot air out of the case. It makes no sense especially for AIOs to get cooler air from outside the case, heat it when passing through the radiator and sending it straight to the graphics card. And it is because of the top most commonly being used as an exhaust that most manufacturers don’t have top dust filters. Lian Li offers a front filter for your case only as an option, nothing for the top. And in their site they picture the top with either an AIO or fans in exhaust position.
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AFAIK the seal plate’s function is to prevent hot air that was thrown out of the case from getting sucked into the case again. Phanteks implements a similar plate in some of their cases to be fitted either in the top front or top back if 2 fans or 2 fan AIO is fitted. If you have top mounted fans or AIO use it, if not don’t.

It's to prevent short loops of any kind, you never want passive holes near either an intake or exhaust fan, unless the airflow is grossly imbalanced and then only on the rear, which could be the case if no top panel fans are used but both front intake fans.

No matter what you do dust always finds a way in and using solid bracket covers will only make things worse as it will trap it inside.

This is not true at all. First, dust tends to accumulate on the interior either way if it gets inside, and gravity will keep most from making it out the top of a case anyway if it's a passive exit, but the idea is the dust doesn't make its way in, in the first place, at least not more than a trivial amount of the smallest particles not blocked by a filter panel. The key is positive case pressurization so the passive holes do not result in dust sucked in through them.

On the case not being designed well I will respectfully disagree as this is a common and proven design.

I didn't claim it won't work fine, just that it's a bad design, senselessly putting passive holes in. Any air exit path where you don't need flow to cool something, is wasting that amount of flow. Obviously where you need flow can vary, for example a video card as I'd mentioned previously, or some unique layout where there's an nvme SSD down low, but otherwise, ESPECIALLY right next to the rear fan mount, it's utterly idiotic to have passive holes right next to the fan.


Most top mounted fans and AIOs are supposed to move hot air out of the case. It makes no sense especially for AIOs to get cooler air from outside the case, heat it when passing through the radiator and sending it straight to the graphics card.

What does that have to do with anything I'd stated?

That would only happen if the system is misconfigured. Air should never be drawn into passive holes in a standard ATX case arrangement, unless it's the old school OEM design that minimizes RF escape and #/cost of fans, where there are no intake fans, just a rear exhaust.

And it is because of the top most commonly being used as an exhaust that most manufacturers don’t have top dust filters. Lian Li offers a front filter for your case only as an option, nothing for the top. And in their site they picture the top with either an AIO or fans in exhaust position.
HTH

True, but they are just promoting that the case could have fans there as a line item feataure, not that it's a good idea in the average system, and in this topic the intention was not to use exhaust fans in those locations, and frankly, there is no reason to buy fans to put there, unless the system is overheating due to high power video card(s). Even then, it makes very little sense to put a fan in the front, top panel position as this is again a short loop wasting a significant % of the intake airflow.

The current trend among case manufacturers is very much something to avoid, which is that they just try to put a fan mount everywhere possible, then pretend that's a "feature", when all it really is, is their saving a bit of metal which lowers cost, while making the case less structurally sound, providing more areas for dust ingress if case pressurization is not factored in, and letting more noise escape out into the room.

A few degrees difference one way or the other does not win a contest, only whether the design keeps the system cool enough while keeping noise low, not wasting money, and not letting excessive dust in.

Any case with a boatload of fans but not positively pressurized with intake filter panels, or if negatively pressurized then extraordinarily well sealed so all passive intake goes through the filter panels, is poorly designed. We're well past the era of needing to let a system get dusty for bad reasons.
 

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It's to prevent short loops of any kind, you never want passive holes near either an intake or exhaust fan, unless the airflow is grossly imbalanced and then only on the rear, which could be the case if no top panel fans are used but both front intake fans.

This is designed to prevent a short loop of a specific kind, the one that draws back hot air not the other way around. If no top fans or AIO is installed then there is no reason not to cover the top of the case but then why buy a case like this in the first place?

This is not true at all. First, dust tends to accumulate on the interior either way if it gets inside, and gravity will keep most from making it out the top of a case anyway if it's a passive exit, but the idea is the dust doesn't make its way in, in the first place, at least not more than a trivial amount of the smallest particles not blocked by a filter panel. The key is positive case pressurization so the passive holes do not result in dust sucked in through them.

If you don’t want dust then you probably need a “clean room” like in a fab. In real world dust will find it’s way in one way or another and it’s not just gravity but static that will help keep it down. Solid bracket covers would just make things a lot worse as the entire back is considered an exhaust and the bracket covers are located in the bottom. You’ll just trap more dust inside. I did the same a few years ago only to switch to perforated brackets which do make a difference. If you have a relatively clean environment and a straight forward air flow there shouldn’t be any major dust accumulation.

I didn't claim it won't work fine, just that it's a bad design, senselessly putting passive holes in.

A design that all case manufacturers like. Passive holes are either for exhaust or to compensate pressure. This is hardly senseless everything is there for a reason.

Any air exit path where you don't need flow to cool something, is wasting that amount of flow. Obviously where you need flow can vary, for example a video card as I'd mentioned previously, or some unique layout where there's an nvme SSD down low, but otherwise, ESPECIALLY right next to the rear fan mount, it's utterly idiotic to have passive holes right next to the fan.

Sometimes letting air pass thru is the best way to cool things even if some of it passes straight out of the case. If you start planning air flow paths that aren’t straight you will be creating issues. A wrong air current created inside the case can have negative effect. It is not by chance that most modern cases feature fans running the entire front panel. The idea is a solid air current running from front to back. Things get complicated when people start adding fans in other places but in the end it’s all a matter of good calculations not bad designs.

What does that have to do with anything I'd stated?

It is one of the major reasons that the top is considered an exhaust point.

That would only happen if the system is misconfigured. Air should never be drawn into passive holes in a standard ATX case arrangement, unless it's the old school OEM design that minimizes RF escape and #/cost of fans, where there are no intake fans, just a rear exhaust.

Define misconfigured. A system is what you make it. Most of the times you can make things better.

True, but they are just promoting that the case could have fans there as a line item feataure, not that it's a good idea in the average system, and in this topic the intention was not to use exhaust fans in those locations, and frankly, there is no reason to buy fans to put there, unless the system is overheating due to high power video card(s). Even then, it makes very little sense to put a fan in the front, top panel position as this is again a short loop wasting a significant % of the intake airflow.

The current trend among case manufacturers is very much something to avoid, which is that they just try to put a fan mount everywhere possible, then pretend that's a "feature", when all it really is, is their saving a bit of metal which lowers cost, while making the case less structurally sound, providing more areas for dust ingress if case pressurization is not factored in, and letting more noise escape out into the room.

Being versatile is a feature. There are so many configurations one can go for that for some it makes sense, for others it does not. You see no reason for so many fans where others see possibilities. In the end is what suits you best.

A few degrees difference one way or the other does not win a contest, only whether the design keeps the system cool enough while keeping noise low, not wasting money, and not letting excessive dust in.

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Any case with a boatload of fans but not positively pressurized with intake filter panels, or if negatively pressurized then extraordinarily well sealed so all passive intake goes through the filter panels, is poorly designed. We're well past the era of needing to let a system get dusty for bad reasons.

I agree but still it comes down to what anyone is looking for. Right now I am in search for a case for my new pc. I always find things I don’t like in cases. In the end I will end up with something and configure it the best way that suits me. The more the options the better. Dust is a concern but I tend to clean my pc twice a year anyways and I won't change that. Static electricity builds up during operation and unseen places like the inside of the PSU can hold a lot of it if left neglecteed.
 

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This is designed to prevent a short loop of a specific kind, the one that draws back hot air not the other way around. If no top fans or AIO is installed then there is no reason not to cover the top of the case but then why buy a case like this in the first place?

It's to prevent the other way around too. Even if it's intake and the short loop is pulling air that isn't heated yet, it is still wasting airflow and extra noise, and dust buildup on a filter, for the amount of effective airflow through the system.


If you don’t want dust then you probably need a “clean room” like in a fab. In real world dust will find it’s way in one way or another and it’s not just gravity but static that will help keep it down.
Not so much, no. I have a couple systems I leave going 24/7, always have even if different systems, still filtered, and never have to clean dust out of them, just take off the front filter panel and clean that off every year or so. I could probably go longer, and have in the past, but it is easier to remember to do things yearly.

Keep in mind, not having to clean dust out only means that the dust does not build up to a problematic level, that they look clean from a distance, not that they're clean enough to eat off of. There is a very light coating of very fine dust after a year. If I bought more expensive pleated filter media with a low micron rating, there would be even less, but then the filters would also be a lot more difficult to clean and I might opt to replace them instead, which raises cost with no tangible benefit, and that type of filter only looks good if entirely hidden behind the front bezel with certain case designs.

Solid bracket covers would just make things a lot worse as the entire back is considered an exhaust and the bracket covers are located in the bottom. You’ll just trap more dust inside.

If done right, there is minimal dust to begin with, so whether there were a small % difference in dust trapped inside, is outweighed by the effectiveness of airflow, that you don't have to move as much air through a system if you aren't wasting the flow through suboptimal pathways, which in itself, results in more dust in a system if you hadn't been effectively filtering it to the point where it wouldn't have mattered.


I did the same a few years ago only to switch to perforated brackets which do make a difference. If you have a relatively clean environment and a straight forward air flow there shouldn’t be any major dust accumulation.

Perforated brackets are only of benefit if you have a card adjacent to the bracket that isn't getting enough cooling otherwise. It comes back to making the most effective use of the airflow you have, before having to restore to extra noise to move more air, with a % of that airflow wasted.

A design that all case manufacturers like. Passive holes are either for exhaust or to compensate pressure. This is hardly senseless everything is there for a reason.

The reason is that they assume the builder has almost no idea what they are doing, and that every bit of metal they remove, reduces the material costs of the case.

The idea of "compensate pressure" is fiction. You don't want to do that, specifically you want a positively pressurized case, to have all incoming air flow through a filter panel.

Appreciate that you are trying to claim you can't keep a system from getting too dusty, and that it is only because you are trying to argue away, what works to keep a system from getting too dusty. It is ironic.

Sometimes letting air pass thru is the best way to cool things even if some of it passes straight out of the case. If you start planning air flow paths that aren’t straight you will be creating issues. A wrong air current created inside the case can have negative effect. It is not by chance that most modern cases feature fans running the entire front panel.

Yes, which is exactly what should happen, front fans making positive pressurization through a filter panel. If you have positive pressurization then if you don't properly block all the passive holes, then at least they aren't sucking dust in, and only negatively impact useful airflow a little bit.

The wrong air current is creating short loops, where the fans are less effective because they are not pulling air across the majority of the system, instead just short loops. As mentioned previously, there is no benefit to the shorter flow path unless you have a specific component in that flow like a video card. Previously, years ago, southbridge chipsets were also an issue, but they were easily cooled enough with a heatsink and a lower front panel intake fan, as long as the HDDs and PATA cables weren't blocking airflow to the SB.


The idea is a solid air current running from front to back. Things get complicated when people start adding fans in other places but in the end it’s all a matter of good calculations not bad designs.

Yes, and all the passive perforations countermine that, reduce the effectiveness and amount of flow front to back, but to be frank, seldom is it the bottom of the back that needs any airflow. The PSU may be there in newer cases, but then it has its own fan.

It is one of the major reasons that the top is considered an exhaust point.

It is true that it makes more sense to make the top an exhaust point than intake in most standard ATX setups, but also makes more sense to not use the top at all, if the system isn't struggling for airflow. The majority of cases for many years, had no top fans and cooled just fine. It was more of a marketing angle of more is better, that so many have top fan mounts today, unless the owner is wanting to shoehorn a lot power hungry components into the smallest space possible, high power density, and then we are back to extra noise, and if not set up for more intake than exhaust (positive pressurization), dust ingress.

Define misconfigured. A system is what you make it. Most of the times you can make things better.

Misconfigured in this context: Doing something to make a line item feature for the marketing dept. that is actually detrimental to the majority of customers.

I have done at least my share of adding fan mounts where old cases didn't have them and realized the point of diminishing return, where more, is not better, if not targeting a specific component that has a heat issue rather than just turning a case into noisy and dusty swiss cheese.
Being versatile is a feature. There are so many configurations one can go for that for some it makes sense, for others it does not. You see no reason for so many fans where others see possibilities. In the end is what suits you best.

Being versatile is a concept for a case manufacturer trying to appeal to as many prospective customers as possible, not so much to the end buyer who has to reconfigure the case for best results. Remember, there have been cases without the top fan mounts for a very long time and they work fine, and are quieter, all else equal.



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I agree but still it comes down to what anyone is looking for. Right now I am in search for a case for my new pc. I always find things I don’t like in cases. In the end I will end up with something and configure it the best way that suits me. The more the options the better. Dust is a concern but I tend to clean my pc twice a year anyways and I won't change that. Static electricity builds up during operation and unseen places like the inside of the PSU can hold a lot of it if left neglecteed.
I can make just about any case work well, and I even mean cases that started their life, only having the fan in the PSU as the sole fan in the whole system, but never have I needed to add top panel fans. I could see doing it for a water cooling radiator, just as the last resort as far as no other place to put the radiator, but otherwise, I have no desire to increase noise and ruin a well filtered case setup with excessive exhaust leading to negative case pressurization and noise escape.

Static electricity should not build up, with a dust controlled system and with what should be an earth grounded chassis through the PSU/mount/3-wire cord to it. You can still get ESD damage through some external events, like shuffling across carpet then grabbing a wired mouse, and blow out a USB port.

However, suit yourself. As long as you are happy with your temps and cleaning interval, that's what matters most.
 

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It's to prevent the other way around too. Even if it's intake and the short loop is pulling air that isn't heated yet, it is still wasting airflow and extra noise, and dust buildup on a filter, for the amount of effective airflow through the system.

I think that we have clarified why the top is mostly considered to be an exhaust and based on the photos in Lian Li’s site that is the case with the specific case. The seal plate is there to block intake (same as with Phantek’s cases I mentioned earlier). If the top was considered an intake then you would have dust filters on top but you don’t. There are only a few cases with top filters which I personally prefer, simply because it gives your more options. I do have a top magnetic filter on my HTPC without any top fans mounted and that’s the way to go. But speaking for the Lancool 216 if you’re gonna add fans on top then I would definitely stick to the manufacturer's instructions and use the plate. It is there for a reason.

Not so much, no. I have a couple systems I leave going 24/7, always have even if different systems, still filtered, and never have to clean dust out of them, just take off the front filter panel and clean that off every year or so. I could probably go longer, and have in the past, but it is easier to remember to do things yearly.

Yearly checks is a good policy. I had mixed results with dust. Most systems with serious dust accumulation were based in not so clean environments or without front air filters or too close to the user’s feet.

Keep in mind, not having to clean dust out only means that the dust does not build up to a problematic level, that they look clean from a distance, not that they're clean enough to eat off of. There is a very light coating of very fine dust after a year. If I bought more expensive pleated filter media with a low micron rating, there would be even less, but then the filters would also be a lot more difficult to clean and I might opt to replace them instead, which raises cost with no tangible benefit, and that type of filter only looks good if entirely hidden behind the front bezel with certain case designs.

Know what you mean. Same here.

If done right, there is minimal dust to begin with, so whether there were a small % difference in dust trapped inside, is outweighed by the effectiveness of airflow, that you don't have to move as much air through a system if you aren't wasting the flow through suboptimal pathways, which in itself, results in more dust in a system if you hadn't been effectively filtering it to the point where it wouldn't have mattered.

There can’t be strict air paths because of the nature of air itself. Anything different than having air moving one direction results in trade offs. Wasting air flow shouldn’t be an issue either. As I already mentioned it is better to keep things simple as a wrong air current can have negative effect. As long as you have sufficient air flow you should be fine.

Dust filters are definitely a must and will definitely help with dust accumulation but if you need to move air and avoid the back as an exhaust then I think that you shouldn’t use air at all. The only way to accurately dictate where thermal exchange within the case will occur is custom water cooling, no way around that for the moment. You can’t accurately direct air the same way. And there is a small issue with air filters limiting air flow. I wonder how Phantek's new mesh +air filter perform.

Perforated brackets are only of benefit if you have a card adjacent to the bracket that isn't getting enough cooling otherwise. It comes back to making the most effective use of the airflow you have, before having to restore to extra noise to move more air, with a % of that airflow wasted.

There is far more to it. Perforated brackets also help by not distorting air flow within the case. You don’t want air bouncing around. You want air to get in, pass through your equipment and get out, not taking turns in there. The more unobstructed air flow is, the better, and with unobstructed air flow comes unobstructed exit of at least some of the dust particles too. The presence of add-on cards is no excuse for installing solid bracket covers.

The reason is that they assume the builder has almost no idea what they are doing, and that every bit of metal they remove, reduces the material costs of the case.

Giving more options to the end user can only be a good thing. Assuming that users are clueless is not something that case manufacturers would dare do. This can only hurt them down the line and they know it.

There is definitely a reduction in material but it’s not just cutting on the cost. Cases evolve through R&D over time and that has a significant cost of its own. if it’s better to have more or less metal or if you can save some without compromises then why not. Do not assume that less means worse. I remember the first all metal pc cases and how they evolved. I prefer any modern case over those any day.

The idea of "compensate pressure" is fiction. You don't want to do that, specifically you want a positively pressurized case, to have all incoming air flow through a filter panel.

Pressure compensation may matter only a tiny bit but it is not fiction. The average user does not have access to sophisticated equipment to accurately fine-tune and measure pressure within a case not to mention pressure variations due to fans altering speed and performance. So yes, there are moments that pressure builds in ways that compensation will occur regardless of whether one likes it or not.

Appreciate that you are trying to claim you can't keep a system from getting too dusty, and that it is only because you are trying to argue away, what works to keep a system from getting too dusty. It is ironic.

I resent your comment and expect you to withdraw it. If you can do nothing but resort to personal attacks and irony then your are clearly in the wrong forum.

Yes, which is exactly what should happen, front fans making positive pressurization through a filter panel. If you have positive pressurization then if you don't properly block all the passive holes, then at least they aren't sucking dust in, and only negatively impact useful airflow a little bit.

At the beginning of my post I specifically mentioned : ”If no top fans or AIO is installed then there is no reason not to cover the top of the case but then why buy a case like this in the first place?”.

However covering all passive holes is problematic as the holes in the back are a completely different issue. Blocking those is not a good idea as it will disrupt the natural air flow and won’t help with dust either. Dust is heavier, it tends to go down and blocking what passive holes you have down there will not help.

The wrong air current is creating short loops, where the fans are less effective because they are not pulling air across the majority of the system, instead just short loops. As mentioned previously, there is no benefit to the shorter flow path unless you have a specific component in that flow like a video card. Previously, years ago, southbridge chipsets were also an issue, but they were easily cooled enough with a heatsink and a lower front panel intake fan, as long as the HDDs and PATA cables weren't blocking airflow to the SB.

I know what you mean but things are ever changing. Now you have chipsets like the X670 which is basically a two chip solution and you have all this high speed m2 slots that could generate more heat than you expect. There are boards out there with 4 or more of these slots and for some, cooling a system becomes more of a challenge.

I’m planning my next pc with at least four m2s and I will start with three installed from the beginning so cooling is getting more important than before.

Yes, and all the passive perforations countermine that, reduce the effectiveness and amount of flow front to back, but to be frank, seldom is it the bottom of the back that needs any airflow. The PSU may be there in newer cases, but then it has its own fan.

Not so seldom I am afraid. Nowadays people use risers for graphics boards and m.2 slots can be found at low places on the board. Dual graphics is still a go for some and the PSU may suffer a bit if all it can get is hot air from within the case.

I am currently looking for a case that will allow direct air flow to my PSU just to be on the safe side and not have to worry about summer’s high temps.

It is true that it makes more sense to make the top an exhaust point than intake in most standard ATX setups, but also makes more sense to not use the top at all, if the system isn't struggling for airflow.

I don’t know if it does makes more sense to have it as an exhaust. With all AIO madness I guess it does for many.

Personally I am a fun of versatility. I like cases that offer as much options as possible. Fractal Design’s Vision S2 and Vector RS, along with Phantek’s Eclipse P600S are among my favorites simply because you have the option of letting the top open for ventilation or keep it closed. Fractal includes top filters too allowing for using the top as an intake but those extra options come with big price tags.

The majority of cases for many years, had no top fans and cooled just fine. It was more of a marketing angle of more is better, that so many have top fan mounts today, unless the owner is wanting to shoehorn a lot power hungry components into the smallest space possible, high power density, and then we are back to extra noise, and if not set up for more intake than exhaust (positive pressurization), dust ingress.

I agree. I have no top fans in any of my systems and I do not plan on having any in my next machine which is currently in the making but most cases of old were not that thought after and can’t be compared to modern cases. For instance water cooling was not common back then and the best place to mount a big water cooler is on top blowing air out of the case. It’s how things evolved.

Misconfigured in this context: Doing something to make a line item feature for the marketing dept. that is actually detrimental to the majority of customers.

I have done at least my share of adding fan mounts where old cases didn't have them and realized the point of diminishing return, where more, is not better, if not targeting a specific component that has a heat issue rather than just turning a case into noisy and dusty swiss cheese.

I agree, I had my hefty share of adding fans to old machines too. Still back then cooling didn’t matter that much so cases were not designed to be so effective in that aspect. This is the reason why newer cases are so different and it’s also the reason I’m not keeping my current case for my next build.

Being versatile is a concept for a case manufacturer trying to appeal to as many prospective customers as possible, not so much to the end buyer who has to reconfigure the case for best results.

I’d say that this is a good concept that also suits the end user as configuring a case to ones needs is what is needed. Reconfiguring a case for whatever reason is a plus if can be done. Versatility counts.

Remember, there have been cases without the top fan mounts for a very long time and they work fine, and are quieter, all else equal.

True, I’m using one of those right now but my needs change and this case is not versatile enough to keep it for my next build. Cases without top ventilation won’t appeal to those choosing water cooling also.

I can make just about any case work well, and I even mean cases that started their life, only having the fan in the PSU as the sole fan in the whole system, but never have I needed to add top panel fans. I could see doing it for a water cooling radiator, just as the last resort as far as no other place to put the radiator, but otherwise, I have no desire to increase noise and ruin a well filtered case setup with excessive exhaust leading to negative case pressurization and noise escape.

Same here. I have only used the top for a couple of AIOs for friends, I still prefer air cooled systems.

Static electricity should not build up, with a dust controlled system and with what should be an earth grounded chassis through the PSU/mount/3-wire cord to it. You can still get ESD damage through some external events, like shuffling across carpet then grabbing a wired mouse, and blow out a USB port.

I always have my system connected to a UPS to avoid as much as can be avoided. Regardless of this, the PSU is always powered so static is present even if you don’t know it and will attract more dust particles than any other component. Newer cases have the PSU at the bottom which does not help. I currently have an Enermax PlatiGemini on order. Part of my choice had to do with fan size, noise and the PSU’s feature to shake off dust.

However, suit yourself. As long as you are happy with your temps and cleaning interval, that's what matters most.

Right on
 
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