Does it really cost half a grand to change a kitchen faucet? [Update - did it today!]

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highland145

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I did mine two years ago, studs out, for about $8k. But I did everything myself; demo, cabinets, floors, electrical, you name it. It's a small kitchen - basically just a 12' wall of cabinets, no corner stuff, no island.

There were a couple fit and finish things I needed to fix - I'm an amateur, after all - but I've gotten around to fixing most of them and it looks pretty good. Way nicer than what I had.
I could have but every morning when I went in, I'd see something that I didn't get right. A lot of $ but I'm satisfied.
 
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Zeze

Lifer
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I'm pleased to announce that I have successfully installed the faucet. The unit was $180~ and that's it. Saved about $300-400 I bet.

The steps weren't complex but very annoying. The most of the gripe came from removing the calcified & rusted nut to get rid of the existing faucet in the cramped space. I definitely swore a lot though.

All in all, learned a lot. Those valve shut offs make me so damn nervous. Why are they all so flimsy across different homes? Water coming out of the screw and all. It's good now though.
 
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Zeze

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as a trades person, we pretty much don't do anything but reset a GFI or swap out a Breaker for less than 250 bucks labor. call it an hour job. you have an hour into transport also, time to make the invoice, time to do the book keeping, time you are not at a larger job, time stocking the truck and going to the supply house, 4 different kinds of insurance, licensing, continuing education hours, trade organization.....

If we pay a guy 30 an hour (which is low) he costs us around 90. plus the van, gas, car insurance, etc. Really you are paying about 125 an hour.

I have installed 3 or 4 kraus faucets, 2 sinks, a soap thing and a few other odds and ends and have been super happy with them.
Hey I bought your Kraus faucet, thanks to you.

It's good. It has some plastic parts though (the sprout head). And the flow is definitely weaker. But it's good and looks very nice.

KP-1674
 
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I'm pleased to announce that I have successfully installed the faucet. The unit was $180~ and that's it. Saved about $300-400 I bet.

The steps weren't complex but very annoying. The most of the gripe came from removing the calcified & rusted nut to get rid of the existing faucet in the cramped space. I definitely swore a lot though.

All in all, learned a lot. Those valve shut offs make me so damn nervous. Why are they all so flimsy across different homes? Water coming out of the screw and all. It's good now though.
Good work faucet replacement is a fairly easy process. The crawling under the cabinet SUCKS!
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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I'm pleased to announce that I have successfully installed the faucet. The unit was $180~ and that's it. Saved about $300-400 I bet.

The steps weren't complex but very annoying. The most of the gripe came from removing the calcified & rusted nut to get rid of the existing faucet in the cramped space. I definitely swore a lot though.

All in all, learned a lot. Those valve shut offs make me so damn nervous. Why are they all so flimsy across different homes? Water coming out of the screw and all. It's good now though.
I swear I've never encountered a water shut off valve I was comfortable with. Every single one feels like it's made of paper clips and is about to just twist out of shape every time I use it, and that's assuming it isn't either leaking or rusted shut.
 

Zeze

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I swear I've never encountered a water shut off valve I was comfortable with. Every single one feels like it's made of paper clips and is about to just twist out of shape every time I use it, and that's assuming it isn't either leaking or rusted shut.
They're all crap across 4 homes.
 

DaaQ

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Shark bite shut off valves are very stout, expensive but its push in and removable, works on pex, copper, and PVC. Shark bite stuff in general is very high quality. I would really like a manifold with each water circuit on it with shut of valves.
For now I have just finished putting in 2 on my tub/shower, only PVC left is kitchen sink area, it is pex either right below floor or inside cabinet.

House was all original PVC and kept busting in winter, so would repair with pex and shark bites, then that spring I replaced as much PVC as I could reach with PEX. It may freeze, but it won't break.
 
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Greenman

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I swear I've never encountered a water shut off valve I was comfortable with. Every single one feels like it's made of paper clips and is about to just twist out of shape every time I use it, and that's assuming it isn't either leaking or rusted shut.
I always installed good quality quarter turn stops that were properly anchored. Solid as a rock.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I always installed good quality quarter turn stops that were properly anchored. Solid as a rock.
You're the only one. Most just suspend them on the pipe like some kind of Avatar tree sleeper, to bend and break at the whims of whatever foot, child, or animal decides to hit them at speed.
 
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Greenman

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You're the only one. Most just suspend them on the pipe like some kind of Avatar tree sleeper, to bend and break at the whims of whatever foot, child, or animal decides to hit them at speed.
I always hated lose stops, so I always put them in correctly.
 

Lanyap

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The first thing I learned about DIY plumbing is make sure you know where the water main shutoff is, that you have the tool to turn it off and test it to make sure it works before you start your work.

Stay away from Koehler. They always design their plumbing products to be very difficult to replace/repair. I had to repair/replace bath faucet aerators and when I took them apart they had like 9 parts.
 
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The first thing I learned about DIY plumbing is make sure you know where the water main shutoff is, that you have the tool to turn it off and test it to make sure it works before you start your work.

Stay away from Koehler. They always design their plumbing products to be very difficult to replace/repair. I had to repair/replace bath faucet aerators and when I took them apart they had like 9 parts.
You need a special wrench doohickey to replace aerators in Moen faucets as well.

They come with one. Don’t lose it.
 
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That's going in my collection of 'famous last words.'

For reasons that shall never be known, the guy that built this place decided that the bathroom faucet needed to mortared in place.

Unfortunately, I had no clue about this and couldn't figure out what was holding it in place. I finally had resort to brute force and bust it off.

I did NOT use mortar for the replacement.

Ah, but now you can say how the builder is your mortar enemy!

I'm pleased to announce that I have successfully installed the faucet. The unit was $180~ and that's it. Saved about $300-400 I bet.

The steps weren't complex but very annoying. The most of the gripe came from removing the calcified & rusted nut to get rid of the existing faucet in the cramped space. I definitely swore a lot though.

All in all, learned a lot. Those valve shut offs make me so damn nervous. Why are they all so flimsy across different homes? Water coming out of the screw and all. It's good now though.

Oh to hear your dulcet tones as you belted 'I swear"! This is what you meant by that, right?

 
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Muse

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$250 parts (directly at mfg website) + $250/hr = $500

How do people manage it?
My kitchen faucet replacement (the part) was cheap enough at Ace Hardware close by. Installing it was a nightmare. Old house (1910 or so), had to remove a fitting that went horizontal into the wall, needed a gizmo to torque it out. The one I bought didn't work. I called a plumber friend who had just retired and he couldn't remove it either with his internal pipe wrench either. Meantime I had no hot water. Called a well rated local plumbing company. The guy had me over a barrel because he was 1/2 way through the job before I got a quote. Not $500 but maybe 1/2 that.
 

thestrangebrew1

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In the same spirit of this OP, I'm looking at changing out my hall shower hardware. WTF is going on with some of these prices?! I'm seeing some as high as $200! We currently have on of those ones with the hose that my mother-in-law swapped out to make it easier for my step-son to shower when he broke his leg, but that was like 5 years ago now, and I just want to replace the hardware with one without the hose. But holy crap! lol I'll probably be posting some questions in the H&G forum because I have some questions (never did this before), that's IF I get the wife's permission to swap the hardware out.
 
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As above but it’s not in the hall.
What’s a good shower head with a removable spray head because my wife wants one for reasons…
 
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bbhaag

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In the same spirit of this OP, I'm looking at changing out my hall shower hardware. WTF is going on with some of these prices?! I'm seeing some as high as $200! We currently have on of those ones with the hose that my mother-in-law swapped out to make it easier for my step-son to shower when he broke his leg, but that was like 5 years ago now, and I just want to replace the hardware with one without the hose. But holy crap! lol I'll probably be posting some questions in the H&G forum because I have some questions (never did this before), that's IF I get the wife's permission to swap the hardware out.
Plumbing can get complicated. It's not always just a quick swap of a faucet and then rubbing your hands together with a job well done.

I went through this a couple of years ago when redoing the master bath. The builder did not think it was necessary to add access panels for the shower plumbing. We needed to cut the drywall in order to gain access. It was a serious PITA because the plumbing was also sweated in with copper. I found a work around using PEX and compression fittings but it was not easy.

I now understand why plumbers demand the hourly rate they charge. All this just to swap out a faucet located in the our shower.
 
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thestrangebrew1

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Plumbing can get complicated. It's not always just a quick swap of a faucet and then rubbing your hands together with a job well done.

I went through this a couple of years ago when redoing the master bath. The builder did not think it was necessary to add access panels for the shower plumbing. We needed to cut the drywall in order to gain access. It was a serious PITA because the plumbing was also sweated in with copper. I found a work around using PEX and compression fittings but it was not easy.

I now understand why plumbers demand the hourly rate they charge. All this just to swap out a faucet located in the our shower.
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Yea I was going to ask a question about this but I think you've answered it at least partially, in that you never really know if you have to cut crap out unless you get into it. The wife won't go for that at all, at least not with skills (or lack of lol).
 

waffleironhead

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As above but it’s not in the hall.
What’s a good shower head with a removable spray head because my wife wants one for reasons…
I prefer the magnetic style shower heads versus the slot style ones. Makes it easy to place the head back up.

 

waffleironhead

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In the same spirit of this OP, I'm looking at changing out my hall shower hardware. WTF is going on with some of these prices?! I'm seeing some as high as $200! We currently have on of those ones with the hose that my mother-in-law swapped out to make it easier for my step-son to shower when he broke his leg, but that was like 5 years ago now, and I just want to replace the hardware with one without the hose. But holy crap! lol I'll probably be posting some questions in the H&G forum because I have some questions (never did this before), that's IF I get the wife's permission to swap the hardware out.
A basic shower head should be a simple unscrew the old shower head and place a new one. Must be some fancy ones to be 200 for just the head.
 

thestrangebrew1

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A basic shower head should be a simple unscrew the old shower head and place a new one. Must be some fancy ones to be 200 for just the head.
Yea just the head is around $40-$80, but for the head, spout and some other small pieces, it can get pricey. The wife won't go for unmatched hardware.
 

Muse

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The ceramic valves faucet I had installed cost me about $60 at small local Truevalue hardware store. It has wing handles like they have in hospitals (love those!), a single swing side-to-side lengthy spout (I have a double porcelain sink). Tried to do it myself but the connections in the wall had deteriorated very badly, the house is about 110 years old. Needed an interior grip wrench. Bought one but it was inadequate and plumber friend's wouldn't work either, got him over here and he gave up. Had to get a local plumbing company over here to fix that wall connection, the only time I've ever paid a plumber to do anything. This around 2-3 years ago.
 

nakedfrog

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I prefer the magnetic style shower heads versus the slot style ones. Makes it easy to place the head back up.

I got one of these when I moved into my new place, I quite like it. The swiveling part broke after 18 months, I figured I'd be SOL because I'd ordered it from Amazon, and a replacement part was more than I'd spent on the whole unit. But I went ahead and called customer support anyway, got right through to an agent, and they shipped me the replacement part with no fuss.
 

sdifox

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Yea just the head is around $40-$80, but for the head, spout and some other small pieces, it can get pricey. The wife won't go for unmatched hardware.


Depending on what you have in place, you may just need to replace the visible hardware.
 

sdifox

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I prefer the magnetic style shower heads versus the slot style ones. Makes it easy to place the head back up.

That's a manlet problem.
 
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