But it doesn't do awesome in games so its a complete dumpster fire release like all the techtubers told me. /s
All gamersIt seems if you are a gamer, you will find everything wrong with Zen 5 that you can.
What ? that makes no sense in light of my comments.All gamers are primarily gamers who game at 300 fps ?
lol thankfully there are alot of people on this site the predate youtube and tech tubers. Its the younger gen that follow these guys religiously and sadly they were never around to see how article heavy tech sites use to be with far more knowledge.But it doesn't do awesome in games so its a complete dumpster fire release like all the techtubers told me. /s
So how is the Strix Halo Zen5? Is it slimmed for a desktop/mobile CPU or it's gonna be a full fat Server (mostly useless for us normal users)?There is a client die - Strix Point.
It has client prioritizations (half-speed AVX-512, less SIMD register capacity, perhaps other things).
I meant to ask do all gamers need a high performance chip considering that games are mostly GPU constrained & not bound on CPU. An adequate CPU should be enough in most cases, right ??What ? that makes no sense in light of my comments.
So how is the Strix Halo Zen5? Is it slimmed for a desktop/mobile CPU or it's gonna be a full fat Server (mostly useless for us normal users)?
lol thankfully there are alot of people on this site the predate youtube and tech tubers. Its the younger gen that follow these guys religiously and sadly they were never around to see how article heavy tech sites use to be with far more knowledge.
i'm talking prime Anandtech, HardOCP, Tech Report etc etc if you know you know.
Oh come on, you're not wrong to a degree but it is all about who your audience is. There were various tech tuber types that covered the benefits of zen5 like Level1techs. On the consumer level, zen5 is a big meh. It will probably be better all around once prices drop in 3-6 months. Gaming and general use, zen4 is better on price/perf.
Exactly.
There is nothing wrong with the CPU, but it's not a step forward for most users in generic gaming/internet/media consumption/productivity, and it's price/performance in those areas is worse.
It has some significant improvements that show up in specific niches, and those particular buyers may find value now, but most will wait for the price/performance to improve for their more generic needs.
Most of the reviews reflect that, and there is nothing wrong with that.
I'm a fairly generic user, so I prefer the generic gaming/internet/media/productivity tests, in reviews like HWUB, over niche reviews of esoteric Linux benchmarks from Phoronix.
Most reviews called it a dumpster fire. They wanted the views for the hot take. It's a serviceable replacement, but as you said the price/perf just isn't there at this point.
As is the case with any product when the price/performance is worse, or often, even only a slight improvement.
Check this forum when price/performance increases only a little bit on a NVidia card: The tar and pitchforks come out.
But it's AMD so it's defend to the death even when it gets worse price/performance.
AMD isn't a monopoly. In any market. And you wonder why people treat them differently to a company with two monopolies?As is the case with any product when the price/performance is worse, or often, even only a slight improvement.
Check this forum when price/performance increases only a little bit on a NVidia card: The tar and pitchforks come out.
But it's AMD so it's defend to the death even when it gets worse price/performance.
Why people are so psyched about this, it's literally 1DPC board with bad cooling bundled in. It won't magically improve mem oc, especially on Ryzen in 1:1 mode, and you can do 7800 (2dpc) and 8000+ (1dpc) anywayLPCAMM2
This is the reason for the bad reviews, together with the uncalled claims from AMD about gaming performance. See the video below, timestamped to the relevant segment:As is the case with any product when the price/performance is worse, or often, even only a slight improvement.
I don't think so.Here's a hot take from me: I personally believe that all CPUs post-Alder Lake are a vast freaking overkill for gaming. It's really not that relevant whether CS2 runs at 600 fps or 750.
Not anymore because AMD has bumped the price so much for that platform and it’s CPUs that it’s no longer interesting for most people.
This is the reason for the bad reviews, together with the uncalled claims from AMD about gaming performance. See the video below, timestamped to the relevant segment:
AMD told the media that 9700X is slightly faster than 7800X3D in gaming. AMD set the expectations, not the media. The media just ran with the claims they were given, benchmarked the CPU and saw poor value.
Also as Do says, they should have been compared with the 7700 and 7600 which both came with a boxed cooler and quite a different MSRP.This is the reason for the bad reviews, together with the uncalled claims from AMD about gaming performance. See the video below, timestamped to the relevant segment:
AMD told the media that 9700X is slightly faster than 7800X3D in gaming. AMD set the expectations, not the media. The media just ran with the claims they were given, benchmarked the CPU and saw poor value.
I'm not saying there aren't some good tech tubers there are. But if you were around 20+ years there is clearly a difference. You make a good point about the audience back then you had to be interested in this stuff and actively looking for it. Now a days youtube appeals to pretty much everyone which include non technical people.Oh come on, you're not wrong to a degree but it is all about who your audience is. There were various tech tuber types that covered the benefits of zen5 like Level1techs. On the consumer level, zen5 is a big meh. It will probably be better all around once prices drop in 3-6 months. Gaming and general use, zen4 is better on price/perf.
This is one of the occasions I wish I had an insight into a one day of an "AMD marketing person". What are the strategic goals? What are the daily tasks? How are they managed? How is the public output verified with legals and engineering?AMD told the media that 9700X is slightly faster than 7800X3D in gaming. AMD set the expectations, not the media. The media just ran with the claims they were given, benchmarked the CPU and saw poor value.
This is the reason for the bad reviews, together with the uncalled claims from AMD about gaming performance. See the video below, timestamped to the relevant segment:
AMD told the media that 9700X is slightly faster than 7800X3D in gaming. AMD set the expectations, not the media. The media just ran with the claims they were given, benchmarked the CPU and saw poor value.