- Mar 3, 2017
- 1,747
- 6,598
- 136
All the negative talk, a win for the consumer.Already seeing price drops. Look at that 9900X. 10% discount lol.
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X drops to $623, 9900X now $449 in the US, with prices slashed up to 12% in Germany - VideoCardz.com
Ryzen 9000 gets first price cuts Not official AMD price cuts, but retailer price cuts. The AMD Ryzen 9000 series has arrived, with at least four SKUs already announced and launched. However, a few things need to be finalized before the full transition to the new platform can be declared...videocardz.com
Nah, what was negative was AMD setting prices too high in the first place. Why else are they already discounting them? They’re not selling well enough. The 9900X price at the current discount is what it should’ve been for MSRP.All the negative talk, a win for the consumer.
BH always had the 9900X for $449. I think they missed price jacking it to $499 right before release.Already seeing price drops. Look at that 9900X. 10% discount lol.
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X drops to $623, 9900X now $449 in the US, with prices slashed up to 12% in Germany - VideoCardz.com
Ryzen 9000 gets first price cuts Not official AMD price cuts, but retailer price cuts. The AMD Ryzen 9000 series has arrived, with at least four SKUs already announced and launched. However, a few things need to be finalized before the full transition to the new platform can be declared...videocardz.com
So... when is AMD gonna rehire Jim Keller?
All the negative talk, a win for the consumer.
Also, no Naffziger and Kosonocky, Singh is there thoughi dont see Keller in the pic
gaming is not the only use for DIY. Thats a very specialized opinionI think it's pretty clear that AMD should not have bothered with releasing it to DIY. Once they realized it wasn't going to beat the 7800X3D in games.
No Naffziger and Kosonocky, Singh is there though
gaming is not the only use for DIY. Thats a very specialized opinion
1) prices are pretty high considering the reviewsIt's the vast majority of sales. That's why sales are bad.
Wondering, if the decision to go 4N path for DT parts was made from the start or at some later stage?I think it's pretty clear that AMD should not have bothered with releasing it to DIY.
There is more to a CPU than gaming alone. In addition, you need to have top tier graphics card to realize the gaming performance, specially top tier Nvidia graphics card because of its driver overhead.I think it's pretty clear that AMD should not have bothered with releasing it to DIY. Once they realized it wasn't going to beat the 7800X3D in games.
There's no problem releasing it for DIY. But for its utility they need to adjust their marketing and pricing.I think it's pretty clear that AMD should not have bothered with releasing it to DIY. Once they realized it wasn't going to beat the 7800X3D in games.
He's busy at Tenstorrent. So probably never. Keller will probably want to retire soon-ish.So... when is AMD gonna rehire Jim Keller?
If crypto mining takes off again that could boost zen 5 salesIt's the vast majority of sales. That's why sales are bad.
Is there a Keller Jr.?Keller will probably want to retire soon-ish.
Looks like this 'bug' is that under true admin account the spectre/meltdown patches are either working in a different way, or not working at all. After I've disabled it, the difference between the benchmark results of FC6 and CP2077 disappeared. Could be something else, but I've rerun the tests several times and did several reboots to be sure.2) Reviews are bad for games due to the windows "bug" that is still an issue, and most people don't run linux.
I wonder how many people worked on the ZEN5 architecture project, how many core designers?
I remember in an interview, I think Lisa was talking about how 2 teams worked on ZEN3 (and probably 4) independently of each other. Whose design turned out to be better, won and that architecture was introduced to the final version. I wonder if 2 teams worked on ZEN 5 in a similar way. But seeing how many problems ZEN 5 has, it's probably only one that didn't manage to finish the work for the much faster July premiere.
Dunno how much people are required
Rising Woman of Influence: Suzanne Plummer - Design The Solution
2019 Nominee Suzanne Plummer Corporate Vice President of Design Engineering AMD Suzanne Plummer is a corporate vice president of Design Engineering at AMD. In this role, she is responsible for […]designthesolution.org
It was around 800 in 2019. I wonder how many managers report to her. It's possible that she was tasked with overseeing some of the AI crap and that affected her ability to look after the core CPU design teams.
The same people that are 5%talking now would be mad that AMD is keeping the good stuff from them, also company would be called retarded by limiting it to OEMs etc.I think it's pretty clear that AMD should not have bothered with releasing it to DIY. Once they realized it wasn't going to beat the 7800X3D in games.
So the higher power consumption of Zen 5 carries to EPYC.
Higher power consumption compared to what?
Zen 4. Its already established that low clock / TDP Zen 5 is scarcely better than Zen 4 at all in perf/w (7700 vs 9700X @65W), and actually can be worse at low enough TDP.
I was just re-reading David Huang's Strix Point analysis part 2 for unrelated reasons. It contains plots of SPECrate®2017 Integer rate1 performance over core power and over package power, for Strix Point and Phoenix. These plots show uniformly better performance of Strix Point at all power levels.Oh, you were referring to the sketchy scaling of GNR (and STX I think) to low per-core power levels. Yes, it will be interesting to see how Turin will manage. At the top end, there is a core count increase, the IOD will support faster RAM, the top end has more fabric links active... and at the same time the cores are that much wider. Quite some places to spend additional socket power at. Potentially one out of several debatable points why Turin gets a newer CCD stepping.
No. Just no.Outside of gaming, AMD has the best overall CPU with Zen 5, even on Windows (and especially on Linux).