It will not be faster than the A18 Pro. Moreover, it will be slightly behind the A17 Pro in ST performance. Oryon has a worse IPC than the A17 P-core. A17 Pro in GB 5 scores 2100+. M4 - 2700+. A18 Pro will have approximately 2400-2500 points. X Elite scores 1900 points in GB5 in ST.If 8G4 is already reaching 4.5 GHz.... 5 GHz for the next generation doesn't sound far.
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And at 4.5 GHz, 8G4 could reach 3400 points in Geekbench 6, a hair behind the A18 Pro's 3500 points (as per rumours).
So in Geekbench 5 where A18 doesn't have the advantage of SME, 8G4 might actually be FASTER THAN IT.
But at what cost?
Looks at power consumption.
1,7 TFlops iGPU. LOL. Really? Even a 4-year-old M1 GPU is more capable.Qualcomm introduces 8-core Snapdragon X Plus "X1P-42-100" SKU with 1.7 TFLOPS GPU - VideoCardz.com
Cheaper laptops to get 8-core Snapdragon SKU The company confirms leaks about the X1P-42-100 SKU. Recently, Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon announced that the goal for the Snapdragon X series is to reach sub-$700 pricing by 2025. So far, the company has made little effort to lower the prices of...videocardz.com
Supposedly this will go into much cheaper devices than M1 ever reached. But yeah...1,7 TFlops iGPU. LOL. Really? Even a 4-year-old M1 GPU is more capable.
M1 devices are available right now for $650 (price at Walmart.com).much cheaper devices than M1 ever reached
Supposedly this will go into much cheaper devices than M1 ever reached. But yeah...
Haha. Appreciate your noble thought but that ain't happening. Not in my lifetime at least.If they wanted to, I imagine Apple could introduce a $499 Macbook SE using an M2 without losing money.
Really ? The almost incredible deal here lately was MacBook Air M1/8GB/256GB @ 800€ (VAT in) in short numbers. PfffffM1 devices are available right now for $650 (price at Walmart.com).
I understand that's a discount because it's many years old but if you're going to offer even less then you need to be priced appropriately.
Well, US prices don't include tax since it varies by locality. But yes MacBook Air M1/8GB/256GB is $650. So Qualcomm needs to put their best foot forward because Apple is killing it when it comes to value performance.Really ? The almost incredible deal here lately was MacBook Air M1/8GB/256GB @ 800€ (VAT in) in short numbers. Pfffff
They don't care about flops but the performance. Some kid is going to play Minecraft on his new QualcommBook Air (3000 RPM edition) and his cousin's 4 year old MacBook Air will be doing better and the impression they'll get is "wow, Windows sucks".Do potential buyers of such devices really care at all about GPU FLOPS? I don't think so, but maybe I am wrong. It would be a decent home PC, provided all your apps work and screen and build are decent.
When the moment comes it's pretty likely that Apple release it, even capped would trash the x86 laptops of that price, forcing Intel and AMD to be more agressive.If they wanted to, I imagine Apple could introduce a $499 Macbook SE using an M2 without losing money. But they have a margin target that's a lot higher than PC OEMs, so there will surely be ARM Windows laptops cheaper than Macs.
But they aren't competing against Macs, they're competing against x86 Windows laptops. There's no way Qualcomm is going to sacrifice THEIR margins to compete with x86 laptops in the lower price bands.
Never say never, Apple could surprise us in a dominating move.Haha. Appreciate your noble thought but that ain't happening. Not in my lifetime at least.
Oof.1,7 TFlops iGPU. LOL. Really? Even a 4-year-old M1 GPU is more capable.
When the moment comes it's pretty likely that Apple release it, even capped would trash the x86 laptops of that price, forcing Intel and AMD to be more agressive.
Isn't this actually a leak?Qualcomm introduces 8-core Snapdragon X Plus "X1P-42-100" SKU with 1.7 TFLOPS GPU - VideoCardz.com
Cheaper laptops to get 8-core Snapdragon SKU The company confirms leaks about the X1P-42-100 SKU. Recently, Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon announced that the goal for the Snapdragon X series is to reach sub-$700 pricing by 2025. So far, the company has made little effort to lower the prices of...videocardz.com
A larger GPU needs a larger power budget to shine, and Asus’s laptop is able to give it exactly that. Battery discharge rate as measured through HWInfo was around 50W. It’s quite a bit higher than the battery discharge rate on the Meteor Lake, Phoenix, and Snapdragon X Elite laptops tested. But it’s worth it, because AMD does get more FPS per watt than the Snapdragon X Elite.
Snapdragon X Elite isn't x86 either and suffers from poor compatibility with games as well, so excluding Apple Mx SoCs doesn't make any sense...(and no, Apple Mx SoCs don't count coz they can't run as many games flawlessly as x86 laptops).
Mx SoCs don't run Windows on ARM. Not yet anyway.excluding Apple Mx SoCs doesn't make any sense...
Actually Windows on Arm was targeting Apple M SoCs for the last few years.Mx SoCs don't run Windows on ARM. Not yet anyway.
Well, I guess this was to be expected.Another lovely nugget of information from the CnC article:
That is surely sad. So while they may have gained a few points with the CPU uarch, they can't compete with the established player in this space (and no, Apple Mx SoCs don't count coz they can't run as many games flawlessly as x86 laptops).