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Red Squirrel

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The forced air in a furnace is to push the air around the house from the heat exchanger and suck it back from the return registers. It doesn't do anything for exhaust gases, at least mine doesn't.

That may have changed over the years though as they've tried to squeeze every last % of efficiency out of the oil. But if that's the case, it's a safety hazard since you're just a blower motor failure away CO poisoning.

Mine operates purely on the heat of the exhaust gas.

I see what you're saying though. At the very least though, do what you can to:
a) insulate the part of the chimney that goes thru the attic. It looks like you have a brick exterior. If that's true and it's not just decorative, you probably don't have a lot to worry about until you get into the general vicinity of the attic.

b) besides fire resistant insulation, try to create as wide of a diameter as possible to separate the piping from the soffits and roof.

I honestly think you would have been better off building a masonry chimney, but now you're talking the big bucks. That's how this house was built.

At one point I was a little concerned with CO infiltration since even masonry eventually gets cracks. So years ago I got a buttload of CO sensors. I would definitely advise that for you too. Think of the kitties. Heehee

Furnaces also have a blower for the exhaust, it's a smaller motor inside. Although come to think of it some of the low efficiency ones did rely only on draft, like water heaters. They used a chimney setup similar to a wood stove.




Masonry chimneys are not really made anymore, the stainless stuff is pretty much the way to go. Need to have at least one inch clearance to combustibles and it's good to go. Apparently it doesn't get that hot. Like you can touch it with your hands and it will be uncomfortably hot but not burn you. I will probably shove a bunch of roxul insulation in the soffit area where the chimney goes just to ensure heat does not accumulate in there and cause ice damming.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I really want to get a cat. Maybe I should look into fostering.

If I ever do adopt though, it's going to have to be a bonded pair of kittens. I don't want them growing up knowing how 'groovy' the outdoors are . . . at least in spring and autumn . . . when it's not raining.

That said, I'm not above swooping in and grabbing a couple of feral kittens. Mom will get over it. She probably can't count much above '3' anyway.

Do it! They are fun especially 2. I got 2 cats, they were brought in separately at the shelter so were not bonded, but they are best buddies now.
 
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bigboxes

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Hand sliced pepperoni, sauteed baby bella mushrooms, fresh chopped habaneros, (my own) tomato sauce, fresh grated Parmesan, fresh shredded low moisture whole milk mozzarella, provolone and applewood smoked cheddar, fresh basil. Topped with fresh grated Romano.

This week, my neighbors gave me a cut of their basil plant and I am in the process of trying to transplant it. I used some of the leaves today for today's pizza. They also had a couple of habanero plants growing and told me I could pick some of the peppers if I needed them. And so I did! I picked the two most mature peppers and they were just starting to turn a little color. They were green and yellow. Would have been hotter if they were orange. But that was the best I can do for free!


 

IronWing

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LOL!

Make America great again
I don't recognize her at all
Streets are full of drugs and illegals
It's time to finish that wall
And make America great again
You might be woke but you ain't awake
I'm madder than hell, I want her back
They took more than I can take
Make America great again

Love this country, love this land but we spiraled
Gotta give her back to God and the bible
Need a red, white and blue revival
Make America great again
Dirty politics will put you on trial
Try to take our free speech and our rifles
Turn the red wave to a tide'll make America great again
Make America great again

Inflation's wrecking our pay
The border's wide open and our vets need help
But we turning them away
Make America great again
Yeah, back to United States
Where your word means something
And your dollar means more
And we ain't messing round with other countries' wars

Love this country, love this land but we spiraled
Gotta give her back to God and the bible
Need a red, white and blue revival
Make America great again
Dirty politics will put you on trial
Try to take our free speech and our rifles
Turn the red wave to a tide'll make America great again
Make America great again, great again, woo

Yeah, we're living on a prayer
God, come save this country
Get us out of this nightmare
And make America great again

Love this country, love this land but we spiraled
Gotta give her back to God and the bible
Need a red, white and blue revival
Make America great again
Dirty politics will put you on trial
Try to take our free speech and our rifles
Turn the red wave to a tide'll make America great again
Make America great again
America great again
Make America great again
 
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Red Squirrel

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I can just see it now, forum gets set to read only, nobody can post, but the birthday thread is the only thing that does in fact go through. Those who are listed as having a birthday can post in that thread, but just for the day. We all adapt to this and learn to have discussions but can only post once a year and have to quote stuff from the other threads.
 

Tetsuo

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What was the name of the site that used to hold all our old gifs n shi, before the days of imgur etc. I'm having a brainfart and can't remember
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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Berjan was an early one. There was another after that that I'll think of in the middle of the night.

Edit:
pics.bbzzdd.com
 
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Red Squirrel

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Also avoid going to it, I don't know if it's still that way, but the last time I went to it, it tried to load some malware on my machine. Someone else bought the domain to use it for sketchy business.
 
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