Just quickly plug another known good PSU into main ATX power and CPU 12V+. Drives disconnected. I don't even 'install' the good PSU many times I just turn the chassis on its side and rest the PSU nearby on the outer edge.
it turns on, all the fans work, but then it shuts off. I do have a PSU tester and I can try that, but not even posting and showing bios is a very bad sign.
But why would it keep power cycling if it was bad ? almost as soon as it powers off, it fires up again.Just quickly plug another known good PSU into main ATX power and CPU 12V+. Drives disconnected. I don't even 'install' the good PSU many times I just turn the chassis on its side and rest the PSU nearby on the outer edge.
Late game turn time on an old quad core will be a special kind of torture. One reserved for only the tightest of the tight wads.Specs are unknown for Civ7 so far. Civ6 recommended cpu is a 4th gen intel so, what you have. It will probably run but I would look toward a new am5 cpu unless on a tight budget going am4 5600 or maybe a 5700x3d. AM5 mobo platform and say a 7600 is best long term mid range option. You can probably stay with the 1060 for awhile.
But why would it keep power cycling if it was bad ? almost as soon as it powers off, it fires up again.
AMD is being bandied about as Intel is a power hog and a dead platform. Since he is in suck a budget mode, even a 7600x is $229 and while only 8 core, he only needs that.I know AMD is being bandied about. So to offer an alternative, what about this?
Can be had for US$275 right now with a limited time code.
Not too shabby.
But for AM5, it’s probably better to look to 7000 series SKUs for now/wait for some deals. That’ll future proof you more than 5000 series.
Just presenting options, that’s all.AMD is being bandied about as Intel is a power hog and a dead platform. Since he is in suck a budget mode, even a 7600x is $229 and while only 8 core, he only needs that.
Problem there is you're only upgrade path is RPL as the socket change kills any option beyond that. No one wants a 13/14th gen RPL though with the issues coming from Intel. Maybe the microcode fixes some of them but, I suspect deeper issues than simple code revisions.12900K
That’s fair. But that’s why I mentioned holding onto it for 10 years, and not upgrading. 😏Problem there is you're only upgrade path is RPL as the socket change kills any option beyond that. No one wants a 13/14th gen RPL though with the issues coming from Intel. Maybe the microcode fixes some of them but, I suspect deeper issues than simple code revisions.
That's just a psychological thing as there's really no meaning behind it. What you're really doing is looking for less depreciation and more longevity before having to add more hardware to meet the standards of whatever you're truly trying to run.future proof
I never suggested that, but an 11 year old system needs to be retired, and right now AMD is the only thing that makes any sense to someone who wants a long running system, NOT Intel due to degrading issues and the like.He's running an 11 year old CPU and asking if he can keep it longer. While needs can always change, I'm not sure worrying too much about the upgrade path on the same platform is really a priority. Nice bonus maybe, but not worth getting too worked up about.
Sorry not replying to you specifically, just on the idea of choosing one path or the other based on nebulous "future proofing".I never suggested that, but an 11 year old system needs to be retired, and right now AMD is the only thing that makes any sense to someone who wants a long running system, NOT Intel due to degrading issues and the like.
Isn't that one of the ones without the igpu? Makes sense if you have a GPU to take the place though I like a backup option if something stops working.7500f
I would get the $399 7700X bundle with motherboard + 32GB DDR5 from Microcenter and use your graphics card until you can afford something faster. You can run the 7700X at 65w ECO mode with almost no performance loss if you want to limp along with your power supply. With regard to the power supply, I would sell it along with your old parts as a working system. Easier to offload that way and a decade old power supply is begging to fail in the next 5 years. Also, it's really limiting your choices down the road for upgrades. A good upgrade for graphics would be a used 3060 12GB for around $200 and you could probably get away with the 3060 + 7700X@65w with your current power supply. I'd consider that your best value upgrade and you can always drop in a CPU upgrade later if needed or wanted.
Unless you *need* 48GB (unlikely) it is better to get the faster 6000 CL32 memory. Otherwise you are gimping your CPU >5% in a lot of tasks with the slower memory. If you have access to a Microcenter those bundles seem like fantastic deals.I think I'm going to do this. (Bundle - There's too much stuff along the lines of the case, drives, etc. for me to think about replacing them and selling the full system. Also: Intel K series means no iGPU, so I'd need to sell my 1060 with the system) Do you have any thoughts about the 32GB version of the bundle vs. the 48GB version for $10 more? It would use this RAM: https://www.microcenter.com/product...sktop-memory-kit-f5-5200j4040a24gx2-fx5-black 5200 CL 40 seems like a decent downgrade from the 32GB version, which is 6000 CL 32, but as the car guys say "there's no replacement for displacement."
On a different topic, what are the thoughts on the Corsair RM750e as a PSU? If we're assuming that I've got an upper midrange CPU like the 7700x and a similar upper midrange GPU of say 300W or less, is there any reason to go bigger? I'd have a HDD or two and a couple SSDs. I may even drop in the legacy DVD drive that's still in the case. (I might have even used it as a DVD drive once since I upgraded from the Phenom 2 940 & AM2 board!) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BYR1BXC6/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
EDIT: The Labor Day Sales are up. I can upgrade from the 7700X to a 9700X for $50 more, or a 7800X 3D (different board) for $150 more. All have the same two RAM options 32GB of fast-ish or 48 of slow-ish for $10 more. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx
If you have access to a Microcenter those bundles seem like fantastic deals.
It can give you room to grow but, otherwise it's not necessary. If you run into an issue later on you already have what's needed for them and can pull the CPU and drop the new one in. It shouldn't be a huge ordeal to swap them and might take you 10 minutes to do. Someone else will take the used CPU off your hands pretty quickly.extra $50 for the 9700x or $150 for the 7800x 3D
I think I'm going to do this. (Bundle - There's too much stuff along the lines of the case, drives, etc. for me to think about replacing them and selling the full system. Also: Intel K series means no iGPU, so I'd need to sell my 1060 with the system)